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1QWIKBIRD · 01-04-2008, 11:00 AM

Going concrete to the 660' mark.......

http://www.atcorace.com/artman/publi..._index_100.php

Tru2Chevy · 01-04-2008, 04:59 PM

Sway sure has been dumping money into that track lately, hasn't he?

- Justin

bubba428 · 01-04-2008, 05:15 PM

well as long as it actually helps. maybe they'll shave a bit more off the 60'

NJSPEEDER · 01-04-2008, 05:26 PM

can't wait to see how it is when they get opened back up for the season.

Tru2Chevy · 01-04-2008, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba428

well as long as it actually helps. maybe they'll shave a bit more off the 60'

Concrete has more grip than asphalt, so it should help everyone get even better times. I'm sure people will be accusing Atco of chopping another 10' or 15' off the length of the track next year

- Justin

SteveR · 01-04-2008, 05:40 PM

Thats cool. That transition point from concrete to asphalt has to be 100% perfect though. Which national event track is it that has that problem with the concrete to asphalt transition point? Dallas? One of 'em does and they mention it every year lol

1QWIKBIRD · 01-04-2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy

Sway sure has been dumping money into that track lately, hasn't he?

- Justin

I was checking to see if they were gonna open this weekend with the forecast supposed to be decent, but I guess it's kinda tough to run if there is no surface to run on

Yeah he is definitley putting money back into the track, so you can't fault hi there. Lots of guys would probably pocket the cash and run....

Chris

johnjzjz · 01-04-2008, 08:42 PM

i dont know if its true but the word is atco has the fastest cars in the country ( the most 7 second dragsters and sedans ) of any other track that race their every week -- maybe but the racing is real you need a 7 to 9 thousands package to go the distance most weeks -- jz

1QWIKBIRD · 01-04-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveR

Thats cool. That transition point from concrete to asphalt has to be 100% perfect though. Which national event track is it that has that problem with the concrete to asphalt transition point? Dallas? One of 'em does and they mention it every year lol

Yeah I've heard the same thing and seen it on TV too, the second they hit the transition they loose traction. I think its at Houston? but definitely somewhere in Texas.

79CamaroDiva · 01-04-2008, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba428

well as long as it actually helps. maybe they'll shave a bit more off the 60'

since the starting pad is already concrete, i dont think it actually will (i cant tell if they're tearing up what was already concrete, or juts adding more). It'll be interesting to see how it will affect times and consistency though.

NJSPEEDER · 01-04-2008, 09:03 PM

after going through all that trouble grinding the whole track last winter, i wonder if he will have to grind the first half again to keep it consistent

SteveR · 01-04-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by johnjzjz

i dont know if its true but the word is atco has the fastest cars in the country ( the most 7 second dragsters and sedans ) of any other track that race their every week -- maybe but the racing is real you need a 7 to 9 thousands package to go the distance most weeks -- jz

Cecil is another possibility. I'm not sure about this year or this past year, but they used to have almost weekly Quick 8, Pro Mod, Outlaw 10.5 and Outlaw Pro Mod races there.

Is E-Town doing the Ultra Quick 8 races every Sunday again this year?

SteveR · 01-04-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 1QWIKBIRD

Yeah I've heard the same thing and seen it on TV too, the second they hit the transition they loose traction. I think its at Houston? but definitely somewhere in Texas.

Maybe it's Houston, but you're right, it's definitely in Texas. And both lanes have problems, but one lane is worse than the other because the transition point isn't perfectly strait across the track, it's at a slight angle, making it worse.

79CamaroDiva · 01-04-2008, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveR

Cecil is another possibility. I'm not sure about this year or this past year, but they used to have almost weekly Quick 8, Pro Mod, Outlaw 10.5 and Outlaw Pro Mod races there.

Is E-Town doing the Ultra Quick 8 races every Sunday again this year?

i think johns talking about the bracket program there.. and if so, i think he's right about the field being that fast. you've seen it yourself with the tight racing at the mitchell races, thats just how it is there.

keith2717 · 01-04-2008, 09:17 PM

Can't wait to see what happens.

SteveR · 01-04-2008, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva

i think johns talking about the bracket program there.. and if so, i think he's right about the field being that fast. you've seen it yourself with the tight racing at the mitchell races, thats just how it is there.

ooo, ok. Yea, the brackets are quick. Does Scotty race at Atco? He was running for E-Town at the bracket finals I think.

79CamaroDiva · 01-04-2008, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveR

ooo, ok. Yea, the brackets are quick. Does Scotty race at Atco? He was running for E-Town at the bracket finals I think.

he might run both and then just pick whichever one he qualifies no 1 at

SteveR · 01-04-2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva

he might run both and then just pick whichever one he qualifies no 1 at

thats so not fair

NJSPEEDER · 01-06-2008, 01:11 PM

ran into jamie (the staging lane guy) from atco last night. he said the weather has prevented them pouring yet, hopefully today though. the track will also be reground to ensure it is glass smooth again

i have a feeling it will be like last year, where the first week or so the traction will be a little spotty while the rubber builds again. then it will be nice and fast.
didn't really get an explanation of why it needed to be repoured though.
oh well, the sways have the money and they are putting it into the facility for the racers. whatever their reasoning, i like it

johnjzjz · 01-06-2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER

ran into jamie (the staging lane guy) from atco last night. he said the weather has prevented them pouring yet, hopefully today though. the track will also be reground to ensure it is glass smooth again

i have a feeling it will be like last year, where the first week or so the traction will be a little spotty while the rubber builds again. then it will be nice and fast.
didn't really get an explanation of why it needed to be repoured though.
oh well, the sways have the money and they are putting it into the facility for the racers. whatever their reasoning, i like it

the high end cars all the tracks get for brackets today are near 1000 HP. slide rule says 2000 pound car 7.40 = 1000 HP+. none of the dragsters are over that weight, and lots of them are faster than that and they are all starting to use computer downloads to give them a track read amongst other stuff. lots of guys were complaining about the transition from concrete to black top, the read outs were showing the chassis's were unloading causing swaying and bouncing soooo i think Joe S decided to move the spot down track so they will be already in second speed when it happens.

if you watch, you will have seen every once in a while a guy lift as if something happened. also most of those cars are 60 footing in under a second like .9xx. the violence of that shot is not so much a thing once the trans shifts -- lots of real neat stuff in the glides have come along to aid in the transition -- the double fluid release dump for reverse in the trans brake leave of these cars / is happening in under 4 tenths of a second completely, and on a dyno the 1 - 2 shift sounds like you hit the case with a 5 pound sledge. it is amazing

jz

bubba428 · 01-06-2008, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva

he might run both and then just pick whichever one he qualifies no 1 at

i was joking

but either way I can't wait to get some runs in

Tru2Chevy · 01-06-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba428

i was joking

but either way I can't wait to get some runs in

Bubba they weren't talking about you at all....

- Justin

Demonicbird00 · 01-06-2008, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy

Sway sure has been dumping money into that track lately, hasn't he?

- Justin

gee i wonder why........ over booking on event days and only geting 1-3 runs in........ def wasnt like this 4+ yrs ago

its def unbelievable.........but on e other hand..... concrete will equal better traction and better times

-brandon

79CamaroDiva · 01-07-2008, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy

Bubba they weren't talking about you at all....

- Justin

ha. nope. not even close.

bubba428 · 01-07-2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva

since the starting pad is already concrete, i dont think it actually will (i cant tell if they're tearing up what was already concrete, or juts adding more). It'll be interesting to see how it will affect times and consistency though.

I meant to hit that quote...I hit the wrong one