Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Calendar
Go Back   NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds > Tech Forums > Engine / Power / Tuning

Notices


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-21-2017, 01:18 PM   #1
The_Bishop
Power Member
 
The_Bishop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hackettstown, NJ
Posts: 1,631
iTrader: (3)
LS Rocker Arms

So, question time:

Parts pile for snowtime heads/cam swap is growing. I have a rocker arm question:

I have the stock rockers that are currently on the car. I know the stock roller bearings like to puke out and infest the motor, so obviously they must change.

I also have a set of 'heavy duty' replacements I bought new from a vendor on LS1Tech a few years ago. They look ok, different bearing design from the factory rockers. Still needle bearings but maybe secured a bit better.

The latest trend being run by the cool kids are a bushing replacement on the stock rockers, like these. My question is: do I run the new but unknown durability heavy duty ones I bought, or upgrade the stockers?

I'd prefer quiet and bulletproof.
__________________
1998 Z-28 - SLP lid - Ported TB - LS6 Intake - Dynatech SS headers/Catted Y - Magnaflow Exh - 3.42 - Yank SS3600 - UMI weld-in subframe connectors, Adj LCA, Adj PHB, Q1A TA - Bolt-in Relocation Brackets - Strano springs - Koni shocks - 17" C6Z06 wheels - 326HP/335ft-lbs - 12.35 @ 110.41

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6 View Post
I can appreciate a dream but this person needed some real friends.
The_Bishop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2017, 05:55 PM   #2
MDSheds_SS
11 sec club
 
MDSheds_SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Woodbridge
Posts: 834
iTrader: (1)
Social Networks:

I did the upgrade when I swapped to dual springs on my last set of heads. It is very easy to do. I still have my set if you are looking for a set already done. My TF215s came with roller rockers so I used those.
__________________
99 Z28 Trick Flow 215s milled to 61cc 228/232 Cam Fast 102 built 4l65e trans 4000 converter 12 bolt 410s Electric WP deleted PS/AC Dyno & Track tuned
2015 ATS Coupe. AWD 2.0 Turbo
2012 2500hd Silverado with LTZ 20s on 35x12.5x20
86 Buick GN Lesabre 1 of 117 (4-Sale)

Last edited by MDSheds_SS; 10-21-2017 at 05:57 PM.
MDSheds_SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2017, 06:32 PM   #3
LS1ow
Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
 
LS1ow's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Meadowlands
Posts: 4,512
iTrader: (15)
Social Networks:

Coming from someone who always seems to end up with unknown condition/strength items, just do the trunion upgrade on the stockers and sell those other ones to offset cost. Or pick up that set from the Shed Master
__________________
99 Z28 - SBE LS1/60e
Motor - 10.84 @ 128 - 1.47 60'
Nitrous - 10.16 @ 132 - 1.40 60"
LS1ow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2017, 07:25 PM   #4
The_Bishop
Power Member
 
The_Bishop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hackettstown, NJ
Posts: 1,631
iTrader: (3)
Sheds, you have the bushing upgraded ones? Not the comp cams bearing? If so, shoot me a PM and let me know what you want for 'em.

Beggs, when I bought them, they seemed like a good idea at the time! At least they're new.
__________________
1998 Z-28 - SLP lid - Ported TB - LS6 Intake - Dynatech SS headers/Catted Y - Magnaflow Exh - 3.42 - Yank SS3600 - UMI weld-in subframe connectors, Adj LCA, Adj PHB, Q1A TA - Bolt-in Relocation Brackets - Strano springs - Koni shocks - 17" C6Z06 wheels - 326HP/335ft-lbs - 12.35 @ 110.41

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6 View Post
I can appreciate a dream but this person needed some real friends.
The_Bishop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2017, 05:54 PM   #5
The_Bishop
Power Member
 
The_Bishop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hackettstown, NJ
Posts: 1,631
iTrader: (3)
So I decided to pull out the ones I bought a few years ago.

I'm not 'feeling' them.





Might get the Strano BTR Straub bushing upgrades for my stockers.
__________________
1998 Z-28 - SLP lid - Ported TB - LS6 Intake - Dynatech SS headers/Catted Y - Magnaflow Exh - 3.42 - Yank SS3600 - UMI weld-in subframe connectors, Adj LCA, Adj PHB, Q1A TA - Bolt-in Relocation Brackets - Strano springs - Koni shocks - 17" C6Z06 wheels - 326HP/335ft-lbs - 12.35 @ 110.41

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6 View Post
I can appreciate a dream but this person needed some real friends.

Last edited by The_Bishop; 10-28-2017 at 07:27 AM. Reason: User Stupidity
The_Bishop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2017, 06:35 PM   #6
PolarBear
Ebearnezer Scrooge/Power Member/Lips
 
PolarBear's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hamilton, Mercer county
Posts: 4,141
iTrader: (16)
Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Bishop View Post
Might get the Strano bushing upgrades for my stockers.
Why not the Comp replacement fulcrums?
PolarBear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2017, 06:38 PM   #7
KirkEvil
10 Second Club
 
KirkEvil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Eatontown
Posts: 1,647
iTrader: (11)
Those look very similar to the stock design, where the bearing case for the rollers can split apart and shat them out.

The comp cams and BTR kits have larger, stepped trunions and snap ring retainers on the ends to prevent that from happening. Those kits can be had for ~$120. Ive assembled over 40 sets of them and never had any problems.

Ive never tried the bushing kits, but I know straub makes the same thing as strano for about $160 vs $200.

http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...oducts_id=8252
__________________
1999 C5 FRC: 12.7@114
2008 TBSS: 12.48@108
2017 Silverado 2500 do you even lift breh?
KirkEvil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2017, 06:46 PM   #8
The_Bishop
Power Member
 
The_Bishop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hackettstown, NJ
Posts: 1,631
iTrader: (3)
I'm retarded. Not 'Strano'. Brian Tooley. These Straub. These, to be more precise.

The BTR ones are $115 vs. $159.

Bear: The comp fulcrums have had issues with brinelling and wear, and tend to be a little noisy.
__________________
1998 Z-28 - SLP lid - Ported TB - LS6 Intake - Dynatech SS headers/Catted Y - Magnaflow Exh - 3.42 - Yank SS3600 - UMI weld-in subframe connectors, Adj LCA, Adj PHB, Q1A TA - Bolt-in Relocation Brackets - Strano springs - Koni shocks - 17" C6Z06 wheels - 326HP/335ft-lbs - 12.35 @ 110.41

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6 View Post
I can appreciate a dream but this person needed some real friends.

Last edited by The_Bishop; 10-28-2017 at 07:30 AM. Reason: User is retarded.
The_Bishop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2017, 07:16 PM   #9
PolarBear
Ebearnezer Scrooge/Power Member/Lips
 
PolarBear's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hamilton, Mercer county
Posts: 4,141
iTrader: (16)
Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Bishop View Post
Bear: The comp fulcrums have had issues with brinelling and wear, and tend to be a little noisy.
OK, thanks
PolarBear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2017, 03:36 PM   #10
The_Bishop
Power Member
 
The_Bishop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hackettstown, NJ
Posts: 1,631
iTrader: (3)
Ok, so I decided to spend an extra $40 and go for the Straub bushing kit. I figure I can sell the other 'new' rockers and make up some of the $$.
__________________
1998 Z-28 - SLP lid - Ported TB - LS6 Intake - Dynatech SS headers/Catted Y - Magnaflow Exh - 3.42 - Yank SS3600 - UMI weld-in subframe connectors, Adj LCA, Adj PHB, Q1A TA - Bolt-in Relocation Brackets - Strano springs - Koni shocks - 17" C6Z06 wheels - 326HP/335ft-lbs - 12.35 @ 110.41

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6 View Post
I can appreciate a dream but this person needed some real friends.
The_Bishop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2017, 08:21 AM   #11
The_Bishop
Power Member
 
The_Bishop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hackettstown, NJ
Posts: 1,631
iTrader: (3)
I updated my posts to make my idiocy public. Kept saying 'Strano' when I mean 'Straub'. Also, the BTR kit is like the Comp Cams kit. Not bushings.
__________________
1998 Z-28 - SLP lid - Ported TB - LS6 Intake - Dynatech SS headers/Catted Y - Magnaflow Exh - 3.42 - Yank SS3600 - UMI weld-in subframe connectors, Adj LCA, Adj PHB, Q1A TA - Bolt-in Relocation Brackets - Strano springs - Koni shocks - 17" C6Z06 wheels - 326HP/335ft-lbs - 12.35 @ 110.41

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6 View Post
I can appreciate a dream but this person needed some real friends.

Last edited by The_Bishop; 10-28-2017 at 08:22 AM.
The_Bishop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2017, 05:48 PM   #12
The_Bishop
Power Member
 
The_Bishop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hackettstown, NJ
Posts: 1,631
iTrader: (3)
Got my Straub bushing kit in. Nicely made and packaged.
__________________
1998 Z-28 - SLP lid - Ported TB - LS6 Intake - Dynatech SS headers/Catted Y - Magnaflow Exh - 3.42 - Yank SS3600 - UMI weld-in subframe connectors, Adj LCA, Adj PHB, Q1A TA - Bolt-in Relocation Brackets - Strano springs - Koni shocks - 17" C6Z06 wheels - 326HP/335ft-lbs - 12.35 @ 110.41

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6 View Post
I can appreciate a dream but this person needed some real friends.
The_Bishop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2017, 02:58 PM   #13
Anti_Rice_Guy
The Mayor / 2009 Member of the Year / Moderator
 
Anti_Rice_Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Northwest
Posts: 8,859
iTrader: (1)
Social Networks:

Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Bishop View Post
Got my Straub bushing kit in. Nicely made and packaged.
Bet not as good as the Strano's
__________________
1995 Z28 Convertible A4 13.78 @ 100 (CAI, high flow cat, catback, 160 thermo, hypertech, Strano springs, Koni yellows, sway bars, 3 pt. UMI SFC)
2018 Sea Doo GTX - 3 cylinders and das boooooost
Quote:
Originally Posted by BonzoHansen View Post
Is English your 2nd language? Did you graduate high school? Your posts make my head hurt.
Team FARM
Anti_Rice_Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2017, 08:31 PM   #14
The_Bishop
Power Member
 
The_Bishop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hackettstown, NJ
Posts: 1,631
iTrader: (3)
Very funny, good sir.
__________________
1998 Z-28 - SLP lid - Ported TB - LS6 Intake - Dynatech SS headers/Catted Y - Magnaflow Exh - 3.42 - Yank SS3600 - UMI weld-in subframe connectors, Adj LCA, Adj PHB, Q1A TA - Bolt-in Relocation Brackets - Strano springs - Koni shocks - 17" C6Z06 wheels - 326HP/335ft-lbs - 12.35 @ 110.41

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6 View Post
I can appreciate a dream but this person needed some real friends.
The_Bishop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2017, 01:14 PM   #15
PolarBear
Ebearnezer Scrooge/Power Member/Lips
 
PolarBear's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hamilton, Mercer county
Posts: 4,141
iTrader: (16)
Thanks for recommending that I not use the Comp Cams trunnions. BTR is running 10% off the whole month for their products, so I ordered 2 trunnion kits, though I should order a 3rd and put a set in the 4.8 daily driver too
PolarBear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2017, 01:15 PM   #16
PolarBear
Ebearnezer Scrooge/Power Member/Lips
 
PolarBear's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hamilton, Mercer county
Posts: 4,141
iTrader: (16)
I also bought two cams, and two spring kits, lol
PolarBear is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

  NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds > Tech Forums > Engine / Power / Tuning

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

» Sponsor List














All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:37 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.