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Old 09-04-2013, 03:08 PM   #51
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http://www.autoblog.com/2013/09/02/t...diesel-engine/

Well GM, looks like this should be interesting couple years.
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:13 PM   #52
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Two of the best vehicle manufacturers in the world want a cummins in their respective trucks? Yeah, they know something you don't.
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Old 09-05-2013, 12:58 AM   #53
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Cummins has the rep and the tech that Toyota and Nissan don't have. Plus, they spent soooo much ****ing money on that 5.0 that they had to give it to someone.
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Old 09-05-2013, 06:12 PM   #54
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Cummins has the rep and the tech that Toyota and Nissan don't have. Plus, they spent soooo much ****ing money on that 5.0 that they had to give it to someone.
Well, will GM be stepping up their 1/2 ton market offerings?
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:52 PM   #55
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Cummins has the rep and the tech that Toyota and Nissan don't have. Plus, they spent soooo much ****ing money on that 5.0 that they had to give it to someone.
There was no debate/rage
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Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.

Same result cept this headache doesnt last months.
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Old 09-06-2013, 06:13 PM   #56
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So stupid... Toyota and Nissan both respectively make amazing diesel engines that were never offered here. The cummins nameplate is simply a ploy to get trucks sold to people who no nothing and are probably gonna cut 6in stacks through the bed of their brand new truck...

The mini dmax going in the canyon is enough motor for a half ton. Not offering it is stupid on GMs part...
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So, diesel Colorado supposedly third quarter 2015, biGal??
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Old 10-21-2014, 04:54 PM   #58
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So, diesel Colorado supposedly third quarter 2015, biGal??
Yes where is Bisexual Girl when you need her
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Old 10-21-2014, 08:41 PM   #59
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Yep. Just drove the regular ones today. Great truck that is very easy to drive around midtown.
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awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww yea, MSRP? EPA mpg?

Details? EHHHHH??
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Old 10-21-2014, 11:12 PM   #61
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No idea. The ones we were driving around in today ranged from high 20's to high 30's depending on trim and options.
I'd say diesel 4x4 crew cab, short bed, will be under 40k aka the cheapest diesel truck you can buy on the market.
I'd also guess near 30mpg? Maybe more? The 3.6 gets 26mpg, so low 30 range would be my guess.
Nothing confirmed till next year.
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Should be the same as the current overseas offering?

You think it will be cheaper than a cummapart nissian or toy?
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Should be the same as the current overseas offering?

You think it will be cheaper than a cummapart nissian or toy?
The truck oversees is a totally different truck.

Since there is no diesel Toyota or Nissan, yes?
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Its a different power plant?
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Same engine, different specs in a different truck.
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So, is there any truth to the 8 speed rumor for the next model year?
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Over 30mpg is easily achievable in the ecodiesel 1500(Epa rating 28 mpg), so I would hope that the smaller GM trucks come with a sticker of at least 5mpg better.
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So, is there any truth to the 8 speed rumor for the next model year?
They said that they have things planned to keep the truck fresh. Right now, only the 6.2 get the 8-speeds, which are very smooth. I had a chance to drive a new Denali with the MRC and the 8-speed. Vurrrry nice.

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Over 30mpg is easily achievable in the ecodiesel 1500(Epa rating 28 mpg), so I would hope that the smaller GM trucks come with a sticker of at least 5mpg better.
If they were going for efficiency, sure, but they will probably get it around the 30mpg marker and tweak for torque.
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They said that they have things planned to keep the truck fresh. Right now, only the 6.2 get the 8-speeds, which are very smooth. I had a chance to drive a new Denali with the MRC and the 8-speed. Vurrrry nice. .
This is where GM f's themselves, every time. To get new feature 'A' you need to order the $50k model. Or wait an extra year or two, when it's not new anymore. Meanwhile, competitors offer the latest features across all tiers without making potential buyers wait.
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Old 10-24-2014, 05:57 AM   #70
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This is where GM f's themselves, every time. To get new feature 'A' you need to order the $50k model. Or wait an extra year or two, when it's not new anymore. Meanwhile, competitors offer the latest features across all tiers without making potential buyers wait.
It is a sign of the times. All the manufactures to it to some extent. Instead of just building the best vehicles possible they target segments, marketing, and other such calculated tactics. Seems to me the easiest way to sell anything is just to offer the best vehicle you can make for a competitive price.

I am thinking about spending the money on the EcoDiesel Grand Cherokee. 7k lbs towing and the new GC's are extremely nice. I think they are rated at 27 or 28 highway, on some of the jeep sites people are saying after they get some miles on them they are seeing 30-31 on straight highway road trips.

Along the lines of what Bishop said the Jeep is only available with the diesel in some of the higher trims so you are looking at about 42-43k at the cheapest. You can equip the Dodge 1500 diesel as low as about 36k on their site but that is more work truck than something most people would be willing to drive.

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The diesel in the Colorado is gonna be urea/DPF etc equipped?
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Yeah, pretty much any oil-burner from here on out will be until they discover something better.
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I haz a sad, keeping my dinosaur

Although a duramax with an 8 speed Allison... yum

Edit: http://www.tfltruck.com/2014/07/2016...he-wild-spied/

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This is where GM f's themselves, every time. To get new feature 'A' you need to order the $50k model. Or wait an extra year or two, when it's not new anymore. Meanwhile, competitors offer the latest features across all tiers without making potential buyers wait.
It's going to take time to spool up production. They trucks that will produce the highest profit will always be the higher priced ones so it helps offset the difference. They did this for the six speeds, giving it a solid year to roll it out, and then offered it across the line.
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The diesel in the Colorado is gonna be urea/DPF etc equipped?
Create a diesel system that will pass Tier 2 Bin 5 emissions without it, and you will be rolling in duckets.
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And, here... we... go...

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/01/12/2...cial/#image-40

All dat torque!
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