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09-16-2008, 08:34 PM
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When do the tires rub, full turn (like parking)?
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09-17-2008, 07:09 AM
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Sounds like you might possibly have an offset problem. Thoes arent IROC's onthere, they look like wheels off an S10 or something.
225/60-16 shouldnt rub at all, even being bigger. IMO, you have a wheel problem.
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09-17-2008, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
When do the tires rub, full turn (like parking)?
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They will rub whenever I turn the wheel enough to one side, even when taking sharp corners.
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09-17-2008, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
Sounds like you might possibly have an offset problem. Thoes arent IROC's onthere, they look like wheels off an S10 or something.
225/60-16 shouldnt rub at all, even being bigger. IMO, you have a wheel problem.
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Yeah, I don't like the rims that are on there, and plan to get new ones. I was just hoping that in the mean time I could remedy the problem by either getting 2 used tires or putting spacers up front.
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09-17-2008, 08:04 AM
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Good call Al, I thought they were camaro wheels.
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09-17-2008, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
For the record, most 3rd gens with 16" rims had rubbing issues.
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My stock size 245/50-16s on my 88 on factory (and correct fr/rear offsets in the correct place) crosslace wheels would rub on the plastic fender liner. Rubs with the 275/40-17 firehawk wheels too.
Is it rubbing on the plastic fender liner, or is it on steel somewhere?
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09-17-2008, 02:57 PM
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My stock size 245/50-16s on my 88 on factory (and correct fr/rear offsets in the correct place) crosslace wheels would rub on the plastic fender liner. Rubs with the 275/40-17 firehawk wheels too.
Is it rubbing on the plastic fender liner, or is it on steel somewhere?
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Both.
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09-17-2008, 03:13 PM
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I wouldnt worry about the plastic lines too much but you have avoided the "where is it rubbing" question several times now. What piece of steel is it rubbing on?
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09-17-2008, 03:23 PM
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I wouldnt worry about the plastic lines too much but you have avoided the "where is it rubbing" question several times now. What piece of steel is it rubbing on?
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I answered that question earlier.. Read some of the last posts. It is hard to describe where it is rubbing. I will have to take pictures of everything.
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09-17-2008, 04:58 PM
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09-17-2008, 05:17 PM
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how does that help his current rubbing issue?
I always had my 16x8's rub when I turned the wheel to the max one way or another.
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09-17-2008, 06:08 PM
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I would DEFINITELY pick those up if they were all 18s!
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09-17-2008, 06:10 PM
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09-17-2008, 06:34 PM
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wow deff something wrong with your wheels and tires IMO
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09-17-2008, 07:13 PM
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wow deff something wrong with your wheels and tires IMO
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yeah, that's what i said.. 
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09-17-2008, 07:26 PM
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Back to what Al said about offset.. Combine that with a taller tire and that is likey your issue. Maybe you could borrow a set of correct wheels & check
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09-17-2008, 07:30 PM
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Yeah looks like the tire is just too tall. You CAN remove that bracket if it interferes with the driving/handling. It is only a brace that was added in the later years. Some of the other rubbing is common but the one is I think an offset problem
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09-17-2008, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
Back to what Al said about offset.. Combine that with a taller tire and that is likey your issue. Maybe you could borrow a set of correct wheels & check
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Yeah, that is what I think it is too. I guess I will just have to either get some smaller tires up front for the time being, or just deal with it until I get the new rims and tires.
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09-17-2008, 07:40 PM
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Yeah looks like the tire is just too tall. You CAN remove that bracket if it interferes with the driving/handling. It is only a brace that was added in the later years. Some of the other rubbing is common but the one is I think an offset problem
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I might try that too, but I really need new rims and tires anyway.
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09-17-2008, 10:19 PM
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Id pick up a set of IROC's or any sort of 16's for a third gen off ebay or what have you.
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09-18-2008, 07:02 AM
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That is a serious rub! From the look of the pics I think a spacer would only cause the tire to rub on the outside fender. Maybe someone here can loan you a stock pair of Iroc and see if it is a suspension issue or a wheel issue.
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09-18-2008, 07:14 AM
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Guys, the wheels he's using are roughly 4" backspacing (0" offset). I had a set of those on my old Monte SS. If he uses IROC wheels or any other 3rd-gen 16" front wheel he'll still have the same problem, since they have the same offset. The problem is, his car originally came with 15" wheels and they have a different steering box. He needs a steering box off a car that came equipped with 16's from the factory. They have the internal stops set in a different place so the wheel can't turn in as far. That ends the rubbing issue.
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09-18-2008, 07:19 AM
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Guys, the wheels he's using are roughly 4" backspacing (0" offset). I had a set of those on my old Monte SS. If he uses IROC wheels or any other 3rd-gen 16" front wheel he'll still have the same problem, since they have the same offset. The problem is, his car originally came with 15" wheels and they have a different steering box. He needs a steering box off a car that came equipped with 16's from the factory. They have the internal stops set in a different place so the wheel can't turn in as far. That ends the rubbing issue. |
I plan to get 18"s, what should I keep in mind when getting them?
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09-18-2008, 07:59 AM
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I thought the 16" wheel cars got stops on the control arms.
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09-18-2008, 08:13 AM
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I thought the 16" wheel cars got stops on the control arms.
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This was an original 15" car. The guy I bought the car from put those wheels on it.
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