Going up against a Charger SRT8...

[Mark B]

I think I am going to wait to see what I can get down on the dyno this saturday first. If the numbers dont look good... then we will talk again. Actually, even if they do look good, I may be calling you. I just picked up a set of drag radials... can you say goodbye 10-bolt?

[JSPERFORMANCE]

poor little thing....

[NastyEllEssWon]

i think the vert is gonna run mid 13s. theyre kind of heavy and
the body twists coming off the line, unless you have sfc. i see
this going to the charger simply because your gonna be going
over 100 for the trap and the chargers top end will simply own
the lt1s everytime.

charger ftw.

i should be there actually on the 28th...with wp tires and hopefully
and ls6 and panhard

[98tadriver]

Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

i think the vert is gonna run mid 13s. theyre kind of heavy and
the body twists coming off the line, unless you have sfc. i see
this going to the charger simply because your gonna be going
over 100 for the trap and the chargers top end will simply own
the lt1s everytime.
charger ftw.

i should be there actually on the 28th...with wp tires and hopefully
and ls6 and panhard

He's got sfc's. check his sig. Please don't knock the LT1's. 86formula's 96z28 A4 traps at 111mph with bolt ons and gears. As long as this guy can drive his 6spd, its going to be a close race. Good luck my friend!

[98tadriver]

charger curb weight- 4160 lbs
425hp 420 lb-ft of torque, given the average 22% parasitic drivetrain loss,

thats 331 RWHP and 327RWTQ

parasitic loss could be less, someone can correct me if im wrong

the vert i would say weighs around 3500-3600 with driver
285 RWHP, 317RWTQ

anyone who knows third gens, feel free to correct me on weight if im wrong

charger, with driver 4310 assuming the driver weighs 150lbs

charger roughly has 45 more rwhp, and 10 more rwtq
Charger is going to weigh at least 500lbs more so i believe that will even it out its hp and tq advantage a lil bit.

Drive that 6spd to victory!

[Mark B]

Got some more detailed info. Turns out he has his car dynoed about a month ago.

SRT8 - 365rwhp / 4200lbs = 11.506 Lbs per Horsepower
Me - 285rwhp / 3400lbs = 11.929 Lbs per Horsepower

Its going to a really close race. It will come down to the drivers. I see me getting the jump off the line and he will be catching up at the top of the track. Should be fun reguardless of who wins. (Becides, I didnt pay $42000 for my car)

[98tadriver]

Originally Posted by Mark B

Got some more detailed info. Turns out he has his car dynoed about a month ago.

SRT8 - 365rwhp / 4200lbs = 11.506 Lbs per Horsepower
Me - 285rwhp / 3400lbs = 11.929 Lbs per Horsepower

Its going to a really close race. It will come down to the drivers. I see me getting the jump off the line and he will be catching up at the top of
the track. Should be fun reguardless of who wins. (Becides, I didnt pay $42000 for my car)

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._handling.html

i just found a 0-60 and 1/4 mile time for that dodge. motor trend tested.

0-60 in 5 seconds and 1/4 mile -13.5 @ 106.3 (hey well what do you know, thats LT1 territory lol) doesnt sound like he's got much top end there for 425hp....

[sweetbmxrider]

hope you hook up well

[NastyEllEssWon]

i still think the charger is going to take it. Its a known fact
that lt1's fall flat on their face at 90, whereas the charger
is still accelerating fast. if you can get off the line quick
and lt1s can, you should be able to have a car or so lead
by the 1/8th and losing by about a car or so by the 1/4.
it will be close, but im still giving it to the charger. im also
pretty sure the charger has a 5 speed auto.

[Tru2Chevy]

Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

i still think the charger is going to take it. Its a known fact that lt1's fall flat on their face at 90, whereas the charger
is still accelerating fast. if you can get off the line quick
and lt1s can, you should be able to have a car or so lead
by the 1/8th and losing by about a car or so by the 1/4.
it will be close, but im still giving it to the charger. im also
pretty sure the charger has a 5 speed auto.

90 mph is at the top of 3rd gear in his car, a shift to 4th would put him at approximately 4300-4400 RPM in a 1:1 gear in a car that makes plenty of torque. I don't see him falling on his face at that point one bit.....

- Justin

[NastyEllEssWon]

he's gonna be shifting from 3rd to 4th right at the end.
if he doesnt have at least a car length at that point he's toast.
the chargers mid to top range is better. trust me. if you beat
the charger its not going to be by much.

im also going by assuming his buddy in the charger can
drive worth a damn, but if the lt1 doesnt clear the 60 and
1/8 in the lead he's not winning no matter what. i bet the lt1 car
does a 13.7 13.8. with the charger pulling a 13.5

[98tadriver]

Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

i still think the charger is going to take it. Its a known fact
that lt1's fall flat on their face at 90, whereas the charger
is still accelerating fast. if you can get off the line quick
and lt1s can, you should be able to have a car or so lead
by the 1/8th and losing by about a car or so by the 1/4.
it will be close, but im still giving it to the charger. im also
pretty sure the charger has a 5 speed auto.

This fella has a T56 in his LT1, and 3.73s; which is alot different than a Automatic/2.73 geared LT1 car. gearing makes a helluva difference. He will still be pulling.

the charger traps at 106mph. thats really not above and beyond LT1 territory by any means.

[Mark B]

According to my calcs...

3rd gear & 5900rpm means I will be shifting to 4th at 91.4 mph

[JSPERFORMANCE]

spray it!!!! To infinity ...and beyond!!!!!!!!!!!

[69BirdX]

My friend in his SRT8 Magnum ran a best of 12.8 @ 111 with stock street radials. CAI, Magnaflow Catbck and a tune.
________
Big Dick ****ing

[IROCdan330]

I still think the third gen will win, but I'm biased...

a charger with big 22" rims and low profile tires cannot be expected to hook at the track like it would (if it even does) on the street. Not to mention all the electronic garbage thats will slow the car down if it does start to spin...Assuming that charger is untuned..

Yea I know you can turn traction control off or whatever dodge calls it, but it wont be completely off if they are still using the benz technology (wouldnt suprise me) unless the driver knows how to get the car in dyno mode, which is an outside chance.

So basically if the guy wiht the thirdgen can launch correctly and maintain the lead, which shouldnt be too difficult, i think he can win.

[NastyEllEssWon]

the 6.0 and the lsx series motors are highly comparable.
the fact that your shifting from third to fourth at 91 doesnt
help. i know you havent run it yet but im going by the
consensus here that your going to trap 105. that means
your shifting right at the 3/4 mark. depending upon where your
at on the track, if your about to shift right before you trap
your better off trying to hold 3rd to the max if you can.
i see the charger winning this. i intend to be down there
anyway to baseline the ls1. should be fun.

[98tadriver]

Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

the 6.0 and the lsx series motors are highly comparable.
the fact that your shifting from third to fourth at 91 doesnt
help. i know you havent run it yet but im going by the
consensus here that your going to trap 105. that means
your shifting right at the 3/4 mark. depending upon where your
at on the track, if your about to shift right before you trap
your better off trying to hold 3rd to the max if you can.
i see the charger winning this. i intend to be down there
anyway to baseline the ls1. should be fun.

i beg to differ there- the reason being the max @ stock rev limiter 6000-6200 rpm in my LS1 and stock 3.42 gears= time of 13.31 and a trap of 103.4 mph, hitting the rev limiter by the 1000' mark. i tried that a couple times before. better off shifting. transmission was fixed, street tires, shifting into 4th, 12.97 @ 110. LS1's pull a bit better up top, so i think the effect of leaving it in 3rd would do more bad than good for the LT1, ESPECIALLY with 3.73s, as he will be banging the rev limiter after the 1/8th

just pull the interior and you should have him with a set of tires, i went 13.3 with an auto, 2.73s, !muffler, SLP CAI, and LCAs.... id hope your car would be faster lol

[NastyEllEssWon]

youd think it would be but its not.
not only are lt1s boat anchors and fall flat
theyre also heavier than the aluminum ls1.
combine that with the fact he's in a heavier car
with an older version of your vehicle im saying
the cars going high 13s.

[IROCdan330]

Um...third gens weigh less than 4th gens (a third gen weighs less with even with a iron block/heads), LT1s are not boat anchors by any means, yes they are heavier than an all aluminum LS1 but dont count them out, theyre still an SBC and still make power. I dont know where you get your information from, but you are very mistaken. the 3.73/T56/LT1 combo makes for an excellent combo.

[Mike]

Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

youd think it would be but its not.
not only are lt1s boat anchors and fall flat
theyre also heavier than the aluminum ls1.
combine that with the fact he's in a heavier car
with an older version of your vehicle im saying
the cars going high 13s.

ls1 has nothing to do with this

[sweetbmxrider]

i smell a gamblers pool! whos bettin on what??

[WildBillyT]

I would bet that the Camaro will win because the Charger will hook poorly and the traction control will take a giant deuce on his ET.

[Iroc-z86]

yeah well if you dont beat the charger with the lt1, ill come and beat him with my 3-0-slow with a whopping 230 horse !

hahaha.