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Originally Posted by 92camarodude
Yea i thought they were called berger panels but guess not...
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No, they are not...unless the car was delivered that way from Berger Chevrolet. That panel is called a tail panel, and if you paint it black, it's simply a black tail panel. 
You will hear many people say otherwise, but they are mistaken.
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11-18-2009, 10:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
No, they are not...unless the car was delivered that way from Berger Chevrolet. That panel is called a tail panel, and if you paint it black, it's simply a black tail panel.
You will hear many people say otherwise, but they are mistaken.
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so only camaros from Berger Chevy came with the rear panel blackout?
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11-18-2009, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by micbegz28
so only camaros from Berger Chevy came with the rear panel blackout?
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No, many (all?) BBC first gens and early second gens came from GM with a black tail panel. Some cars sold by Berger Chevy had the tail panel painted black as part of special dealer packages that were done.
IMO, only F-bodies that arrived at Berger Chevy with a "normal" tail panel, and were sold by them with a black painted tail panel can be considered as having a "Berger Panel"
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11-18-2009, 10:33 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
No, many (all?) BBC first gens and early second gens came from GM with a black tail panel. Some cars sold by Berger Chevy had the tail panel painted black as part of special dealer packages that were done.
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It was more than just Camaros, as well. A lot of factory hot rods came with blacked out tail panels.
In an EPIC FAIL, 4th gen guys call a black tail panel a "Berger panel" since it was made popular by the Berger cars. Which is why a Green Berger Panel is a Fail x2- a "Berger" panel can only be black, and it isn't a "Berger" panel unless it's on a Berger 4th gen.
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11-18-2009, 10:35 PM
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looking good hope it all goes in easy.
And here we go again with the berger and tail panel thing again lol
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11-18-2009, 10:38 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Originally Posted by BigRocsFirebird
looking good hope it all goes in easy.
And here we go again with the berger and tail panel thing again lol
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Yeah, I really try to stay out of it. Really.
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11-18-2009, 10:39 PM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
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Originally Posted by WildBillyT
Yeah, I really try to stay out of it. Really.
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lol the motor and trans should be in this weekend. im busy during the week so i cant do it. i dont know if im gunna drive it around with the 10bolt or just wait a few more days till i get a 12b
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11-18-2009, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by micbegz28
lol the motor and trans should be in this weekend. im busy during the week so i cant do it. i dont know if im gunna drive it around with the 10bolt or just wait a few more days till i get a 12b
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Why the need for a 12bolt?
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11-18-2009, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by LTs1ow
Why the need for a 12bolt?
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why not?
my last 10bolt was pretty built(gears, locker, ect) and the wheel fell off lol
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11-18-2009, 10:44 PM
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Just seems over kill and a lot of money when you should be trying to get the car back to running status.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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11-18-2009, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LTs1ow
Just seems over kill and a lot of money when you should be trying to get the car back to running status.
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well all i need to do its put the motor in and figure out this pcm thing and it is running status.
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11-19-2009, 05:30 AM
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11-19-2009, 07:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by micbegz28
why not?
my last 10bolt was pretty built(gears, locker, ect) and the wheel fell off lol
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you think people get aftermarket rears to keep the wheels on? 
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11-19-2009, 08:14 AM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by micbegz28
why not?
my last 10bolt was pretty built(gears, locker, ect) and the wheel fell off lol
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If you were still running c-clips then I wouldn't call it built.
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11-19-2009, 02:47 PM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
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Originally Posted by WildBillyT
If you were still running c-clips then I wouldn't call it built.
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true lol
so you think my 10b w. the stuff i have and then C Clip Eliminators will hold?
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11-19-2009, 02:50 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Engine = Stock, so I don't see why not. Don't run slicks and drop the clutch.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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11-19-2009, 02:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LTs1ow
Engine = Stock, so I don't see why not. Don't run slicks and drop the clutch.
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stock? 
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11-19-2009, 03:03 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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.....ins't it?
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Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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11-19-2009, 03:22 PM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
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Quote:
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.....ins't it?
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negatory. its a 383
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11-19-2009, 03:24 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Oh?
What heads/cam?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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11-19-2009, 03:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LTs1ow
Oh?
What heads/cam?
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still stock heads, debating throwing a set on befor i toss the anchor in.
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11-19-2009, 03:40 PM
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what cam?
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11-19-2009, 03:42 PM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
what cam?
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dont know of the top of my head to be honest with you lol.
i got the purple pearl car with it in there. ill check the recipts when i go to my shop.
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11-19-2009, 04:27 PM
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people have gone plenty fast in the past with 10 bolts. I wouldn't "not drive the car" just because it has a 10 bolt. Don't shock the rear too much and you will be ok.
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11-19-2009, 04:40 PM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deadtrend1
people have gone plenty fast in the past with 10 bolts. I wouldn't "not drive the car" just because it has a 10 bolt. Don't shock the rear too much and you will be ok.
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i normaly dont abuse the car. i like to go with the whole "fast cars drive slow" thingy lol
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