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01-18-2007, 01:20 PM
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i didnt say it wasn't worth anything in scrap..i said it was barely worth scrap value as a car...i didnt say it wasn't worth anything in scrap form
that thing will need more to get it even close to upto snuff then it would be worth
and like i said above..i'm not trying to be a dick..just dont want to see anyone get into a project thats a lost cause....also..if you end up scrapping it...i'd bet you could at least find afew pieces on there to throw on ebay so you could make out quite well
good luck to you on what ya do ith it and i wish teh best to whoever may attempt to fix that thing up
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01-18-2007, 04:32 PM
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No project is a lost cause, and why would you worry about other people anyway? its their choice as far as what they want to do with the car. Most of us are grown-ups here that can make their own decisions. ANywayits home, but weather is sh!tty, i'll get pics of it when its not raining out. i didnt check the weather, so i dunno when that will be. BTW, im not trying to be a douchebag or anything either. (and no im not calling anyone a douchebag out of context!)
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01' Z06 62k miles. Vararam, Longtubes, off road xpipe, tuned by me. Times TBA
2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold
1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
12's on moda? One day
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01-18-2007, 07:55 PM
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haah did you just call him a doucshbag out of context... anyway if i was you and you really have your heart set on this car go look em up an see what they are selling for cuase the car is only worth 10 grand when your done and you spent 25 grand.... thats not a good thing there is so many cars out there cause that car is a hell of alota work... with that said its a base firebird so you can do with it what you want.... tub it out or what ever ya know its not gonna be like your choppen up some rare T/A that is worth so much being a factory resto... personally id rather do up a firebird rather than a t/a cause i know i dont want a factory car and otherwise itd be a waste of a good car.... good choice with the 77 tho... 77-78 are my fav's good luck with it what ever you do....( big block.... just an idea.. heheh)
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01-18-2007, 08:45 PM
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if you only worry about what the end result is worth when you are messing with cars you may as well give up and buy a honda now. at least then your car will get great mileage while it depreciates. lol
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01-18-2007, 09:01 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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here here on not worth the money, but you do it anyways. My camaro was estimate twice as much to repair then worth, but I did it anyways, and I look back on it today, I could of either put a nice down payment on an 06' Eclipse GT, or had my baby back...glad I stuck wiht the domestic. ive dumped alot of money into many of my rides and got almost nothing out of it in return, but you know what, i had fun doig it,thats all that matters. life is ment for fun, not money metters, moeny comes an goes, but your passion and hobby of something is part of what counts in life.
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01-18-2007, 09:14 PM
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Admin.
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Investment or love, you decide....
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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01-18-2007, 09:25 PM
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Investment or love, you decide....
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Love hands down, screw he money, you burn it one way or another
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01-20-2007, 02:26 PM
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10 Second Club; Has fan club
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just got home, should have pics up today
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01' Z06 62k miles. Vararam, Longtubes, off road xpipe, tuned by me. Times TBA
2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold
1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
12's on moda? One day
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01-23-2007, 04:08 PM
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will have pics up within the hour!
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01' Z06 62k miles. Vararam, Longtubes, off road xpipe, tuned by me. Times TBA
2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold
1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
12's on moda? One day
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01-23-2007, 04:30 PM
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pics and she had a lil more rust than what i thought since i actually got pics during the day. like i said the rear subframes were rusted, but anyways heres a buncha pics. If nobody is interested in the car as a whole, i can part what's left on it lol.
stock, flat hood is decent, trunk lid, sail panel, tail lights, rear bumper in surprsingly very good condition!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...ver/trunk1.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...iver/rust4.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...iver/rust3.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...iver/rust2.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...iver/rust1.jpg
rear seats are decent, just need to be cleaned up!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2.../interior1.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...river/door.jpg
1 matching pair, possibly 2 matching pairs of headers- one is circular port (top) other is oval port i guess (bottom)
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...r/headers2.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...r/headers3.jpg
also, a radiator out of it, looks to be good
driveshaft is also good!
350 SBC would be thrown in with car, from intake to pan, minus the distributor. if car is bought as a whole. if not ill sell it seperately. not seized or blown up.
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01' Z06 62k miles. Vararam, Longtubes, off road xpipe, tuned by me. Times TBA
2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold
1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
12's on moda? One day
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01-23-2007, 05:51 PM
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Man, I thought I was the only person to have subframes turn out like that on heir car. I used to own a 79, and it could of been a fixer upper, but never got round to it, and as soon as you knw it, it was too far for me. my subs looked just like that.
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01-23-2007, 06:20 PM
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I may have interest in the door panels.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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01-23-2007, 07:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacdout96
Man, I thought I was the only person to have subframes turn out like that on heir car. I used to own a 79, and it could of been a fixer upper, but never got round to it, and as soon as you knw it, it was too far for me. my subs looked just like that.
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Nope. You could push your finger through the old ones on my '69, and the ones on my old '78Z were destroyed at both front spring pockets.
The repair is not as bad as it would seem if they are only bad in the front. If you have a welder and cutouts from a donor car it's 2 or 3 days work.
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01-23-2007, 10:55 PM
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Location: south central pa
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looks like a great parts car, if you part it, i'd buy the emblems from the fenders just to have..adn the lil bird on the dash bezel
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01-28-2007, 08:30 AM
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HOW MUCH FOR THE WHOLE CAR!!!!!!!!!!
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01-28-2007, 06:38 PM
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Quote:
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HOW MUCH FOR THE WHOLE CAR!!!!!!!!!!
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well seeing shes got quite a bit of rust in the rear subframe and rust in other areas- $500 OBO
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01' Z06 62k miles. Vararam, Longtubes, off road xpipe, tuned by me. Times TBA
2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold
1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
12's on moda? One day
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01-28-2007, 06:57 PM
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she doesnt run?
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01-28-2007, 06:59 PM
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motor is out of the car. no trans either. my friend told me the motor is still good. motor sat for a couple years so it would most likely need to be freshened up. he swapped it out for another 350
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01' Z06 62k miles. Vararam, Longtubes, off road xpipe, tuned by me. Times TBA
2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold
1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
12's on moda? One day
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01-28-2007, 07:26 PM
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it has a title correct? We need to work something out, i would hate to see this scrapped!!!!!
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01-28-2007, 07:44 PM
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it has a title correct? We need to work something out, i would hate to see this scrapped!!!!!
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not to cost myself a sale or anything, but u did see how badly rusted the rear subframe was, right?
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01' Z06 62k miles. Vararam, Longtubes, off road xpipe, tuned by me. Times TBA
2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold
1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
12's on moda? One day
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01-29-2007, 08:48 AM
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yes, can you check the title to see if it is ruined. thanks
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01-29-2007, 08:53 AM
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Matt, that is not a good starting spot for a project...and you already have a project...and you'll be hard pressed to get that back in parts value...and you say you can't afford a $20 book...it's 9:48AM, go to school....
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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01-29-2007, 08:57 AM
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Quote:
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Matt, that is not a good starting spot for a project...and you already have a project...and you'll be hard pressed to get that back in parts value...and you say you can't afford a $20 book...it's 9:48AM, go to school....
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no school today, i dont want it for a current project, i want it for after this, I dont care about values. I just hate to see this get junked.
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01-29-2007, 08:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
Matt, that is not a good starting spot for a project...and you already have a project...and you'll be hard pressed to get that back in parts value...and you say you can't afford a $20 book...it's 9:48AM, go to school....
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... and you'd need to get it to your house from South Jersey
... and you'd need a place to put it
... and you need to finish the current project with whatever money you have
... and... you get the picture right?
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Wanted this - , but ended up with this - for free. Can't argue with free.
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01-29-2007, 09:39 AM
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Admin.
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Quote:
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no school today, i dont want it for a current project, i want it for after this, I dont care about values. I just hate to see this get junked.
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Let it go...some things are not worth the effort...and you don't have the cash...
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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