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So what do you have done to the formula?
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09-16-2008, 09:18 PM
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So what do you have done to the formula?
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read the very first post that I made
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09-16-2008, 09:20 PM
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Not much, I would try and do stuff that doesn't involve motor internals. Mids, good catback, CAI etc.
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09-16-2008, 09:24 PM
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Not much, I would try and do stuff that doesn't involve motor internals. Mids, good catback, CAI etc.
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Yeah i have a CAI on it atm lol guess i forgot to add that
and i firgured i'd do the headers when i did the engine seeing as i am probably going to be pulling it.
and what catbacks would you recommend
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09-17-2008, 08:07 AM
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Saitan, you better sit down and look at prices because you don't have anywhere near the budget!
The term shortie and Mid seems to vary by vendors, they are both very simular, but tipically, Shortie Headers connect to the stock Y-pipe (or come with one) and are not equal lenght tubes. As such you only get a slight porformance gain. But they are also tipically cheap.
Mid-lenght are larger and longer offer a better performance gain. Probably the most commonly used are the MACs or SLP, Edelbrock also makes nice headers, and the Edelbrock TES is one of the only ones that is CARB certified to be 50 state leagal. I ran the MACs on my heads/cam engine and they worked very well.
LT and full race headers, will make the most power, but you have to remember that there are allot of other exspenses you may have. Custom Y-pipe, O2 extenders, And since you have a 94, you may need to also switch to heated O2s. This needing heated O2s is hit-or-miss, doesn't seem to be related to the brand of headers, just on some cars the O2s don't get hot enough and it throws the ECM info fits trying to switch to closed loop.
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09-17-2008, 02:21 PM
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Saitan, you better sit down and look at prices because you don't have anywhere near the budget!
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I have, I didn't think a cam package cost 2 grand lol well the ones i was looking at any ways
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...6&autoview=sku
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09-17-2008, 02:22 PM
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You get penny and dimed to death with it. Sure the cam is cheap, but then all the mods to support it, injectors, and a tune....
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09-17-2008, 02:31 PM
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True,I guess I need to rephrase and say that I am wanting to start with a cam and go from there lol as long as I have the cash coming i should be good to go.
Guess my first question was answered way earlier I should either rebuild my current motor or grab a new one(looking at grabbing a new one now)
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09-17-2008, 02:32 PM
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I still would vote on doing every bolt on you can do before going deep.
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09-17-2008, 02:43 PM
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I still would vote on doing every bolt on you can do before going deep.
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Ok I see what you mean,what would you recommend I go for next
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good catback,.
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so whats wrong with borla I think I payed over 800 for mine from summit hell i think i can find them on there site if you wanna look at it.
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09-17-2008, 02:45 PM
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I missed that, my bad. But some argue that a borla is a 800 dollar cutout... 
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09-17-2008, 02:52 PM
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I missed that, my bad. But some argue that a borla is a 800 dollar cutout... |
it was one of the first things I did to the car when I got it before the tranny went out,didn't know to much about what and what those days.
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09-17-2008, 02:54 PM
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Mids would be a good step. Then maybe an EWP if you do it right. And perhaps some 1.6 RRs. Although, they kinda push your stock springs to the max.
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09-17-2008, 02:57 PM
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On the other hand, doing some suspension work is always good. LCAs, LCA relo brackets, rear diff cover, and a 3000 stall.
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09-17-2008, 02:58 PM
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alright I'll look into this and go from there guess I'll do the headers before any type of engine work.
you say mids and going back the the other conversation all I come across are full lengths and shorties or are some shorties mids?
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09-17-2008, 03:00 PM
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And what could be more fun that installing headers on a 4th gen? 
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09-17-2008, 03:03 PM
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sex on the beach
but seriously are the mids called shorties?
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09-17-2008, 03:04 PM
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Does that make use of every profanity you know, and cause severe bruising and bleeding?
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09-17-2008, 03:10 PM
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Does that make use of every profanity you know, and cause severe bruising and bleeding?
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well I was referring to the drink but yeah it could do all three.
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09-17-2008, 03:12 PM
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The term "mids" and "shorties" are kinda always mixed up. Look for a nice set of MAC mids, or if you don't care about NJ emissions, pick up that set of used pacesetters for 200.
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09-17-2008, 04:04 PM
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And what could be more fun that installing headers on a 4th gen? |
Installing sidemount headers on a big block vette.
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09-17-2008, 04:07 PM
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I don't know much outside the world of the LT1, I assume you have lots of space and easy accessibility on those sidemounts?
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09-17-2008, 04:09 PM
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even doing headers you can run into this and that while you are working on them. so be sure to budget accordingly....extra!
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09-17-2008, 04:10 PM
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Things like the dipstick, which if you have a short temper and are lazy, I guarantee you breaking or mangling immensely...
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09-17-2008, 04:22 PM
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You get penny and dimed to death with it. Sure the cam is cheap, but then all the mods to support it, injectors, and a tune....
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Ummm ...... ok
I am running stock injectors on mine. Stock TB, nothing else done. And if hes going to do every bolt on imaginable then a tune is worth it for that anyways.
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