Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Calendar
Go Back   NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds > Tech Forums > Brake, Chassis and Suspension Tech

Notices


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-20-2013, 08:08 PM   #1
edpontiac91
 
edpontiac91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Piscataway, N.J.
Posts: 1,729
iTrader: (16)
FoundersPerformance Relocation Brackets-Help with Install Tips

My son just sent me a set of these brackets for my 1991 Formula. These have an arm that sticks out with a 45* angle (bolts to the lower shock support) that some of the other brands do not have, such as Spoon/ UMI and others. Just wondering why some of them use different designs? They sent me some installation instructions which include cutting of 1/4" of the caliper weights. Never heard of anyone having to do this. They also said that the handling may be a bit "twichy" on taking corners if you use the lowest setting. Should I leave well enough alone, or put these on. With the 3:73 gears, it has to be babied out of the hole (on the track) and I was hoping this would help it hook up better.
__________________
1991 FORMULA 350-GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN
1 of 1,197 with L98 Option/13.79@100 mph

1994 25th ANNIVERSARY TRANS AM GT -1
of ONLY 2,000 made/ Only 128 made with a HURST 6-Speed Manual and 91 with T-Tops and Compact Disc/ K & N Filtercharger/Magnaflow Performance Muffler/Air Foil- ORIGINAL MINT Arctic White Ultra Rare SURVIVOR. DAYTONA 500 PACE CAR Decal Kit!


SOLD: 1989 Turbo T/A in 1991 it ran 12:18@115 mph
edpontiac91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2013, 08:53 PM   #2
BonzoHansen
Admin.
 
BonzoHansen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hamilton, NJ
Posts: 20,149
iTrader: (27)
is your car lowered?
__________________
Vent Windows Forever!

The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.

Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.

Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
BonzoHansen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2013, 08:59 PM   #3
edpontiac91
 
edpontiac91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Piscataway, N.J.
Posts: 1,729
iTrader: (16)
Quote:
Originally Posted by BonzoHansen View Post
is your car lowered?
No, stock height with tubular LCA's/ panhard bar.
__________________
1991 FORMULA 350-GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN
1 of 1,197 with L98 Option/13.79@100 mph

1994 25th ANNIVERSARY TRANS AM GT -1
of ONLY 2,000 made/ Only 128 made with a HURST 6-Speed Manual and 91 with T-Tops and Compact Disc/ K & N Filtercharger/Magnaflow Performance Muffler/Air Foil- ORIGINAL MINT Arctic White Ultra Rare SURVIVOR. DAYTONA 500 PACE CAR Decal Kit!


SOLD: 1989 Turbo T/A in 1991 it ran 12:18@115 mph
edpontiac91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2013, 09:09 PM   #4
198esp1
 
198esp1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 396
iTrader: (2)
if the lca is pointed up towards the front of the car, the lca will cause roll oversteer. typically in a handing application you want the lca slighty down, roll understeer or level
__________________
2012 northeast divisional champion
2012 nnjr scca cp champion
198esp1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2013, 06:06 PM   #5
Featherburner
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Arm pit of the world... NJ
Posts: 2,673
iTrader: (1)
Quote:
Originally Posted by edpontiac91 View Post
They sent me some installation instructions which include cutting of 1/4" of the caliper weights. Never heard of anyone having to do this.
This is what I had to do.


__________________
John
Featherburner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2013, 06:36 PM   #6
Paul Huryk
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Bridgewater, NJ
Posts: 835
iTrader: (0)
They are typically for lowered cars, although they may help non lowered cars too. Probably have that extra piece for more stability - I'm guessing.

I would think in your case a good drag radial would help a lot more than the relocation brackets in terms of better 60' times. Have had very good experience with them on nitrous equipped L98 cars, at least the Nitto 555 DR in 16".
__________________
1984 Camaro: 350 Auto, Global West Suspension, Baer Brakes, CTW Wheels
1989 GTA: Bolt-on L98. Global West Suspension, full Magnaflow exhaust, Wilwood Brakes, CTW Wheels
Paul Huryk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2013, 07:55 PM   #7
deadtrend1
11 second club / Moderator
 
deadtrend1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: West Berlin, NJ
Posts: 7,148
iTrader: (11)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Featherburner View Post
This is what I had to do.
Thirdgens did not get them. Lt1 thing ..
__________________
2001 Trans Am WS6 •SLP Loudmouth II •UMI Suspension •12.857 @ 109.57

1996 Trans Am WS6 •Pacesetter Longtubes •Strange 12 Bolt •Spohn Suspension •11.152 @ 123.85
deadtrend1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2013, 07:59 PM   #8
BonzoHansen
Admin.
 
BonzoHansen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hamilton, NJ
Posts: 20,149
iTrader: (27)
Ed, let's make it easy. You don't need them.
__________________
Vent Windows Forever!

The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.

Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.

Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
BonzoHansen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 11:50 AM   #9
townsend
 
townsend's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: harmony, nj (phillipsburg)
Posts: 507
iTrader: (0)
id say yes if you are lowered, no if you are not lowered. i need them due to the amount of lowering the rear has, the lca points down at the body drastically, and id like to atleast level it out for a little more neutral feel. i will not be using the all the way bottom hole
__________________
1994 Firebird Formula - Injuneer's car - NEW PB 9.90 @131

2021 Charger Scat

Wrench/driver 94 Camaro Ellwein 385/D1SC/CPT 4l60e/9" slow pile
townsend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 01:11 PM   #10
creeper
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 817
iTrader: (3)
the arm that sticks out is to hold them in place without needing to be welded, the ones you are seeing without that are probably weld in sets

I had them, then didn't, then had them again, and now don't again

When I was lowered with a poorly matched combination my car would not hook at all off the line, and was really bad in the rain. I installed the brackets and they made a huge difference in getting off the line. I ran them on the middle setting for a few autox's and they didn't change a whole lot handling-wise, not that I've had enough experience to really know. When I switched up my setup to BMR/Koni in the rear I removed them, didn't notice much difference and could still get off of the line pretty well so I sold them. I think I've replaced half of my aftermarket suspension parts with stock stuff by now hahah.
__________________

|2000 Trans Am|T56 swap|Bolt Ons| Suspension|

Last edited by creeper; 04-04-2013 at 01:13 PM.
creeper is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

  NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds > Tech Forums > Brake, Chassis and Suspension Tech


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

» Sponsor List














All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:40 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.