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Old 07-03-2009, 10:27 PM   #26
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Ok so hears what i got so far the 12 bolt is out the window cause this is gonna be my DD s60 is heavy so i guess im going with the good ol 9 inch.

So this is gonna be the setup LS2 - Magnum T56 - And a moser 9 inch with a 3.50 or 3.89 axle ratio havent decided yet.



i have 3:70s. love em

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Old 07-03-2009, 10:47 PM   #27
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Moser 9in...I'll be sporting one soon enough.
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Old 07-04-2009, 12:04 AM   #28
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How hard is the install on the moser is it a direct bolt in any fabrication recuired?

And i couldnt find 3.70's for a 9 inch i was looking for them or 3.73's
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Old 07-04-2009, 12:24 AM   #29
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My ten bolt seems to be doing OK behind my auto... but i'm sure it'll be on its way soon enough.
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Old 07-04-2009, 01:10 AM   #30
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call bob here....http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com/ he's the one that built the moser 9'' that came with my car...even though i didnt buy it from him he was still nice enough to answer some of my questions about the build order from the previous owner when i broke my driveshaft. you can get the 3:70s from there too







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Old 07-04-2009, 07:20 AM   #31
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So far all of you have managed to take what I have said and totally misconstrue it.

The 12bolt is PLENTY strong enough for most applications. AS I said I can count at least two cars I have done with 12 bolts that run deep into the 9's and one off hand that is in the eights. All of these cars have trans brakes and are at least 3400 lbs. Unless you have 1000+ horsepower you really do not have to worry about braking the 12 bolt any more than anyther rear. As far as 12 bolts not being intended to have a torque arm bracket, that is true.. FOR STOCK HOUSINGS. The Strange housing is a completely aftermarket casting whish IS designed to have a torque arm mount.

9 inch works ok but has the most amount of parasitic drag due to the location of the pinion in relation to the ring gear. I have one in my Camaro and have scattered it all over the track so it is not exempt from breakage either. Also the torqe arm mount involves mutiple brackets welded to the stamped steel rear housing, not casted into the differential center section itself..

60 is a bit heaver than the other two but it is by far the strongest. The pinion/ring relationship makes this rear have about the same parasitic loss as a 12 bolt does. Only other draw back is the need for a slightly shorter driveshaft due to the overall size of the housing. The 60 like the 12 bolt, is a completely aftermarket casting whish is designed to have a torque arm mount so there are no problems there either.

Remember EVERY one of these rears WILL break eventually, EVERYTHING BREAKS in racing/high performance, it is just a matter of how long it lasts in between service or repairs..So to repeat myself.. For the majority of people any one of these rears will be a capable unit. It just boils down to the pros and cons involved with each particular design.
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Old 07-04-2009, 11:54 AM   #32
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12 bolts weren't meant to have a torque arm on them.

The 9in has an okay posi.

The S60 is probably the strongest, but I believe it is the heaviest and has the most drivetrain loss out of all of them.
so a ford rear that came from cars that never had torque arms is more meant to have one? while the moser tq arm mount sucks, the strange one is just like stock with the long bolts and nuts
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So far all of you have managed to take what I have said and totally misconstrue it.

The 12bolt is PLENTY strong enough for most applications. AS I said I can count at least two cars I have done with 12 bolts that run deep into the 9's and one off hand that is in the eights. All of these cars have trans brakes and are at least 3400 lbs. Unless you have 1000+ horsepower you really do not have to worry about braking the 12 bolt any more than anyther rear. As far as 12 bolts not being intended to have a torque arm bracket, that is true.. FOR STOCK HOUSINGS. The Strange housing is a completely aftermarket casting whish IS designed to have a torque arm mount.

9 inch works ok but has the most amount of parasitic drag due to the location of the pinion in relation to the ring gear. I have one in my Camaro and have scattered it all over the track so it is not exempt from breakage either. Also the torqe arm mount involves mutiple brackets welded to the stamped steel rear housing, not casted into the differential center section itself..

60 is a bit heaver than the other two but it is by far the strongest. The pinion/ring relationship makes this rear have about the same parasitic loss as a 12 bolt does. Only other draw back is the need for a slightly shorter driveshaft due to the overall size of the housing. The 60 like the 12 bolt, is a completely aftermarket casting whish is designed to have a torque arm mount so there are no problems there either.

Remember EVERY one of these rears WILL break eventually, EVERYTHING BREAKS in racing/high performance, it is just a matter of how long it lasts in between service or repairs..So to repeat myself.. For the majority of people any one of these rears will be a capable unit. It just boils down to the pros and cons involved with each particular design.
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Does anyone have the weights of the rears cause this is gonna be a DD i dont want to be driving a tank
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my car weighs like 3700 lbs with the 9''
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Old 07-04-2009, 02:30 PM   #36
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Does anyone have the weights of the rears cause this is gonna be a DD i dont want to be driving a tank
You will not "feel" the difference in weight either way..

You are obivously not going to be going out side of the capabilities of any of these rears. Like I said pick one GM, ford, or mopar they will all do the job for you it is up to you to decide what you see when you look under the car.
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