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01blackz28 · 03-15-2010, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 3.4 grape of wrath

I have an edge 3200 stall converter. Afr's around 11.5 to 12.

Forced induction setups 11-11.5 is ideal AFR, 12 is a bit lean. Do you have the wideband graph from the dyno?

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Originally Posted by Zero4488

Thats why your gunna need some mickey's and a bigger converter......you'll drop time off your 60' and you'll hook.....

You need to see what the car does with traction before you tell him he needs a looser converter.
edit: Is your car spinning so bad that it is shifting into 2nd?

3.4 grape of wrath · 03-16-2010, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 01blackz28

Forced induction setups 11-11.5 is ideal AFR, 12 is a bit lean. Do you have the wideband graph from the dyno?

You need to see what the car does with traction before you tell him he needs a looser converter.
edit: Is your car spinning so bad that it is shifting into 2nd?

I'm not concerned about the tune the car runs great. It's just the traction issue that's holding me back.

Slow-V6 · 03-16-2010, 05:47 PM

How about adding a 50 shot of Nitrous for the top end? I dont see you cutting less then a 1.6 60' and with that you should run a 12.3 or so. I still think that if you want to hit an 11 your gonna need more power or less weight!!

3.4 grape of wrath · 03-16-2010, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Slow-V6

How about adding a 50 shot of Nitrous for the top end? I dont see you cutting less then a 1.6 60' and with that you should run a 12.3 or so. I still think that if you want to hit an 11 your gonna need more power or less weight!!

I would be happy with low 12's. I really don't want to mess with nitrous (not that there's anything wrong with it) but not for me.

12secondv6 · 03-17-2010, 10:18 AM

I ran HAL 12 way adjustable shocks and they were great.

Ditch the front sway bar.

I got to a point where the front shocks were set to 12 (all loose)
Rear shocks were set to a 4 on one side and a 5 on the other.

I'm not a fan of edge converters as they typically have low str's and poor efficiency.

Don't throw more power at it. Spend some time with suspension and even weight reduction/ relocation.

Maybe battery in the trunk or get an odessy 11 lb battery for the front. Light weight seat? How far would you be willing to go to with weight reduction/ relocation? I got my 97 bird down to 2720 and still had another 150-200 pounds that could have been removed

3.4 grape of wrath · 03-17-2010, 10:29 AM

I got some summit adjustable rear shocks coming tomorrow. I like my edge torque converter it's the only one that has held up so far. You won't find a front sway bar on my car. I'm done with weight reduction also. I do want to get some M/t's and try again after I get the shocks set up.

Slow-V6 · 03-17-2010, 11:12 AM

If he is done with weight reduction then more power and suspension are the options. James your car weighed in at 2700lbs!! Thats insane!!

Zero4488 · 03-18-2010, 11:09 AM

The car needs to 60' better....get a set of 26" Mickey's and a bigger convertor.....problem solved....as far as more MPH....now reason to add nitrous....it's a turbo car....use meth, crank the boost up and send it....

SteveR · 03-19-2010, 02:14 PM

Or if you have a decent rear get some et streets and use a 50 shot of N2O off the line to spool the turbo faster once you get a few feet out.

3.4 grape of wrath · 03-19-2010, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveR

Or if you have a decent rear get some et streets and use a 50 shot of N2O off the line to spool the turbo faster once you get a few feet out.

Again I don't want to mess with nitrous. Traction off the line is my problem the turbo is spooling fine. If I need some more hp I can always turn the boost up a little.

Zero4488 · 03-20-2010, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 3.4 grape of wrath

Again I don't want to mess with nitrous. Traction off the line is my problem the turbo is spooling fine. If I need some more hp I can always turn the boost up a little.

Grab a set of ET streets and you'll see improvement....if your not happy after the tires you'll need a bigger stall....

3.4 grape of wrath · 03-21-2010, 09:33 PM

Ok I sold the nitto's and I'm going to buy some MT's which I will be mounting on a set of salad shooters. What would be the best size width wise to buy?

03-22-2010, 11:12 PM

why MTs? get a set of Hoosier QTPs and dont look back. 26 x 10.50 should hook great

BigAls87Z28 · 03-23-2010, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JerzLT1

why MTs? get a set of Hoosier QTPs and dont look back. 26 x 10.50 should hook great

ahaha...the last 10 posts about tires kept telling him to get MT's.
Then you come in, and throw it all off.

3.4 grape of wrath · 03-23-2010, 06:50 AM

Too late the Mickey's are on there way!

03-23-2010, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

ahaha...the last 10 posts about tires kept telling him to get MT's.
Then you come in, and throw it all off.

i know several people who have had better luck with QTPs, a softer sidewall will allow you to hit them harder

Zero4488 · 03-23-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JerzLT1

i know several people who have had better luck with QTPs, a softer sidewall will allow you to hit them harder

is a turbo v6 going mid 12's.....he'll be fine with any type of bias ply tire....and on the up side....Mickey's will out live QTP's.....

SteveR · 03-23-2010, 01:32 PM

you can go with 28" M&H's too

03-23-2010, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero4488

is a turbo v6 going mid 12's.....he'll be fine with any type of bias ply tire....and on the up side....Mickey's will out live QTP's.....

how many sets of QTPs have you gone through? because i used to DD on them. they last a lot longer than you think

Zero4488 · 03-24-2010, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JerzLT1

how many sets of QTPs have you gone through? because i used to DD on them. they last a lot longer than you think

I'm sorry...I've used both....and by the different compound in the Mickey's oppose to the slightly softer compound in the QTP's the Mickey's last longer....my car see's 100% street time of DOT slicks....I think I'd know

RamAir95TA · 03-24-2010, 11:24 AM

Either tire will be a hell of an improvement over the Nittos.

...MT FTW.

3.4 grape of wrath · 03-24-2010, 11:35 AM

The Mickey's showed up today now I just have to have them mounted and through the summit drag shocks on and will see how she hooks.

LTb1ow · 03-24-2010, 11:36 AM

I have yet to try out my summit drag shocks, so post up how you like yours.

Zero4488 · 03-25-2010, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA

Either tire will be a hell of an improvement over the Nittos.

...MT FTW.

Yea definitely....

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Originally Posted by 3.4 grape of wrath

The Mickey's showed up today now I just have to have them mounted and through the summit drag shocks on and will see how she hooks.

Set them to 50/50 and send it!

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Originally Posted by LTs1ow

I have yet to try out my summit drag shocks, so post up how you like yours.

They work very well for cheap-o summit junk....thats what I'm running in a few of the cars I work on and none of the drivers have any complaints...I'd post a video but seeing how the Non-NHRA sanctioned racing is frowned upon on this site I won't....feel free to PM and I'll send you a link of those shocks and some autozone springs in action....

-Dave

03-25-2010, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Zero4488

I'm sorry...I've used both....and by the different compound in the Mickey's oppose to the slightly softer compound in the QTP's the Mickey's last longer....my car see's 100% street time of DOT slicks....I think I'd know

i think that people are under the assumption that QTPs are going to last an oil change of DD duty. ive raced on a set for an entire season worth of racing + DD duty and still had tread lines left. almost everyone that i talk to that uses both says that they like the QTPs more