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Just out of curiosity what would they use other than plastic?
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04-04-2009, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon
the dash height in the 4th gens are perfect. the interior on the 5th gen looks cluttered and useless. i can see someone tossing a short shifter on there and fisting the gauges in front of the shifter with a nice firm 2-3 shift...same way i put my fist through the berettas radio going from 2-3.
i thought gm was trying to do away with cheap and plastic looking? it seems like its going on strong with the new camaro. thats the first thing that comes to mind. cheap and plastic.
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i dont know if it is all SS but i was talking about the whole car with the guy and this car has a short shifter
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04-04-2009, 04:22 PM
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Just out of curiosity what would they use other than plastic?
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Bamboo?
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
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04-05-2009, 09:40 AM
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04-05-2009, 09:53 AM
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Man, it really looks too big.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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04-05-2009, 01:49 PM
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kinda does look tall, not really longer tho...
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04-05-2009, 05:12 PM
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kinda does look tall, not really longer tho...
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How many coupes are longer than a 4th gen? That thing goes on for miles 
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04-05-2009, 05:40 PM
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the 4 gen is definately longer but hey i find this car so beautiful
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04-05-2009, 11:32 PM
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Just out of curiosity what would they use other than plastic?
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Cahbon Fiba and aluminium
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04-06-2009, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon
the dash height in the 4th gens are perfect. the interior on the 5th gen looks cluttered and useless. i can see someone tossing a short shifter on there and fisting the gauges in front of the shifter with a nice firm 2-3 shift...same way i put my fist through the berettas radio going from 2-3.
i thought gm was trying to do away with cheap and plastic looking? it seems like its going on strong with the new camaro. thats the first thing that comes to mind. cheap and plastic.
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Dash hight and seat hight are teh two biggest problems that people complained about. Sitting low with a wide and long dashboard, combined with a heavily raked windshield made it very hard to see out of.
5th gen is much different. While there are gunslit windows, its more upright seating feels better and more civilized.
Interior is better in person. While it wont look like the CTS's interior, its also a car that has to fit a target segment of 22-35k target.
Again...please wait till you see the car in person. While some of you will never change your mind, much like my opinion with teh 4th gens, its a different car in person.
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kinda does look tall, not really longer tho...
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It is taller, but a few inches shorter while keeping the width. The biggest change, and one that can make the car look longer, is the larger wheel base compared to the silly small 101 inch on the 4th gen. 5th gen is over a foot longer. That means a lot less overhangs.
Again, wait till you see the car in person.
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04-06-2009, 06:18 AM
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Did the guy buy this? I love that RED 4th gen, too.
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04-06-2009, 01:29 PM
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Yup...interior is still hideous.
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04-06-2009, 10:14 PM
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Did the guy buy this? I love that RED 4th gen, too.
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no he didnt buy the car he is a gm warrenty rep and hes basically testing it out and after 6 months they will take it back and dismantle the car and check everything over
and on the note of the red 4 gen thats my buddies car and he just got rearended the other night by some idiot girl who was claiming to be looking at directions and not the winshield so my buddy was just sitting at a light and well bang she twisted the rear frame where the exaust bolts up and messed up the rear quater pretty bad
it sucks its such a beautiful car
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04-06-2009, 10:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
Dash hight and seat hight are teh two biggest problems that people complained about. Sitting low with a wide and long dashboard, combined with a heavily raked windshield made it very hard to see out of.
5th gen is much different. While there are gunslit windows, its more upright seating feels better and more civilized.
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really that is one major thing i do like about the 4th gens
sorry to hear about your buddies car
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04-07-2009, 01:05 AM
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yea it sucks hopefully the insurence dont total it hes got alot of work into it
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04-07-2009, 01:20 AM
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ive personally seen the new camaro in person al. quit assuming i havent. its been at almost every major auto show for the last two years. its not exactly a secret.
the gto interior looks miles better than this. hell the g8 interior looks a lot nicer. while i understand that most cars are made out of plastic...i just think the interior looks too cheap. thats one of the things they said was the downfall of the 4th gen. this one looks downright rediculous.
it looks just about every bit as big as a charger and its a shame. no point if buying one of those. stock for stock theyre every bit as stout as the 4th gen was. 
edit: wasnt one of the saving graces of this car to be the IRS which was supposed to upgrade handling considerably? im not impressed with the numbers on that either. .88 g's or something like that?
its just time to realize. the camaro is about 2 times too big
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04-07-2009, 05:30 AM
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Sorry to hear about the red 4th gen. Sweet looking car. They say men are worse driver's? lol
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04-07-2009, 08:24 AM
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yea it sucks hopefully the insurence dont total it hes got alot of work into it
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they will. Mine was totalled for less
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04-07-2009, 08:59 AM
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edit: wasnt one of the saving graces of this car to be the IRS which was supposed to upgrade handling considerably? im not impressed with the numbers on that either. .88 g's or something like that?
its just time to realize. the camaro is about 2 times too big
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On a smooth surface IRS offers no increase in handling. The improvement comes when the road is less than smooth – like most public roads race courses. I would not expect greatly increased “g” measurements in a test situation.
I’m more interested in how the handling is hindered by the oversized wheels & tires as well. 20s & 21s are just too big. All that weight that far from the hub, like giant flywheels.
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yea it sucks hopefully the insurence dont total it hes got alot of work into it
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It will be, that car is wrecked. These cars do not takes rear hits well.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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04-07-2009, 10:09 AM
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Ughhh that 4thgen is toast 
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04-07-2009, 02:24 PM
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well ill definately keep you guys posted on whats going on
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04-07-2009, 03:34 PM
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I don't care what any of you guys say, the 2010 Camaro is SEXY!!
I love my 4th Gen but come on, It's hard to tell the difference between a 4th Gen and a Chrysler Concorde at 50 feet. And the interiors in 4th Gens is dead ass cheap.
Again I own a 98Z and love it. But that New Camaro is miles ahead as far as Materials and styling is concerned.
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04-07-2009, 03:55 PM
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lets fix the problems here's a rough idea...
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04-07-2009, 04:11 PM
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So in your opinion it'd be better if you could only drive it during the day?
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04-07-2009, 04:15 PM
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So in your opinion it'd be better if you could only drive it during the day?
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at least consider removing the fake grille at the bottom.. the headlights are a disgusting wreck along with the blinker
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