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Old 01-08-2012, 07:31 PM   #26
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I just wanna know the specs of the camshaft that it came with.
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Old 01-08-2012, 07:32 PM   #27
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yes im thinking that ,,, i to more work to this car, but one the money and two,, not sure if my ideas will work... i want to go with 383 stroker kit and 3:73 gears with 12 bolt ... i know iknow i need to use strange, but i dont think i want too... trying to get hopefuly 450 475 hp at the wheels also was looking at 383 supercharged its starting to get upsetting cause ... i feel like my car sucks
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yes im thinking that ,,, i to more work to this car, but one the money and two,, not sure if my ideas will work... i want to go with 383 stroker kit and 3:73 gears with 12 bolt ... i know iknow i need to use strange, but i dont think i want too... trying to get hopefuly 450 475 hp at the wheels also was looking at 383 supercharged its starting to get upsetting cause ... i feel like my car sucks
I can steer you in the right direction for mods to give you the hp you want... you just have to ask, then listen, then follow through.
There is a million parts out there that say hp this and hp that. but you need to pick the correct part combos to give you the results your looking for.
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I can steer you in the right direction for mods to give you the hp you want... you just have to ask, then listen, then follow through.
There is a million parts out there that say hp this and hp that. but you need to pick the correct part combos to give you the results your looking for.
ok im listening
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Old 01-08-2012, 07:51 PM   #30
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ok im listening
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Old 01-08-2012, 08:09 PM   #32
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It's a pretty small cam.

212 / 218 .558 / .563 @ 115

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Exactly what I was thinking. If they picked the cam and you said that you wanted a "wicked evil street car" then they are pretty dumb. I know that that shop deals mainly with older muscle cars. That means old school mentality. To them that cam probably seems a lot bigger than it really is...
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yea so its back to the drawing board,, i just wish i didnt spend all that money
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Old 01-08-2012, 08:17 PM   #34
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Exactly what I was thinking. If they picked the cam and you said that you wanted a "wicked evil street car" then they are pretty dumb. I know that that shop deals mainly with older muscle cars. That means old school mentality. To them that cam probably seems a lot bigger than it really is...
FWIW my Nova's cam is pretty mild and it's 224/230 @ .050
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yea so its back to the drawing board,, i just wish i didnt spend all that money
This is why you do tons of research before spending any money. Bringing it to a shop (especially one that doesnt specialize in late model motors) usually wont have as good of a result. If you want that shop to do the work on the car, thats fine. But if I were you I would supply them with all of the parts.
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yea so now im f@#$%ed cause i spent all that money, and i have to rebuild the thing all over and i dont have the cash so i guess it will sit for awhile
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yea so now im f@#$%ed cause i spent all that money, and i have to rebuild the thing all over and i dont have the cash so i guess it will sit for awhile
Your money was not spent in vain. There are way worse things that could happen. Just stick around and ask some questions about your next mods
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Old 01-08-2012, 08:30 PM   #38
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yes im thinking that ,,, i to more work to this car, but one the money and two,, not sure if my ideas will work... i want to go with 383 stroker kit and 3:73 gears with 12 bolt ... i know iknow i need to use strange, but i dont think i want too... trying to get hopefuly 450 475 hp at the wheels also was looking at 383 supercharged its starting to get upsetting cause ... i feel like my car sucks
Thats easy with an m6.. Id go 11.5 to 1 comp , 248/248 cam around 630 lift , with a good set of heads should be low 500s , Should be 470ish with an auto
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ill stick around np just got to wait for money to build up again its slower for me in the winter not as much cash flow
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Thats easy with an m6.. Id go 11.5 to 1 comp , 248/248 cam around 630 lift , with a good set of heads should be low 500s , Should be 470ish with an auto
ill just have to wait thanks
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If your going to do a new motor do a .402/408
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If your going to do a new motor do a .402/408
how much do you think that would cost and what work does that entail
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I would enjoy the car still and just wait and save and when the time comes modify it.

408 and forced induction are on my current wishlist. . . just a matter of when
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stock block/pistons w/what I suggested will give you what your looking for.

I'm not knocking Charlie, just the expense of a 402/408 isn't really justified unless you plan on going F.I. or on the bottle, as the stock short block can hold 500+ w/out a problem
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stock block/pistons w/what I suggested will give you what your looking for.

I'm not knocking Charlie, just the expense of a 402/408 isn't really justified unless you plan on going F.I. or on the bottle, as the stock short block can hold 500+ w/out a problem
475rwhp threw an auto on stock ci will not be very well street mannered. You can build a 408 and make 500rwhp and still drive very well. Stock CI has its limitations.
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how much do you think that would cost and what work does that entail
Depends on how crazy you go and what you want to do for cylinder heads
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475rwhp threw an auto on stock ci will not be very well street mannered. You can build a 408 and make 500rwhp and still drive very well. Stock CI has its limitations.
Not that true. Kirk puts down almost 460 thru his stalled auto on a stock bottom end, runs 10s, and drives the car on the street no problem...

Guess it depends on you opinion on street manners though. It varies for different people...
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Not that true. Kirk puts down almost 460 thru his stalled auto on a stock bottom end, runs 10s, and drives the car on the street no problem...

Guess it depends on you opinion on street manners though. It varies for different people...
^^^^I agree^^^^

also proven 525hp+ @ flywheel (roughly 430-440rwhp) using TFS heads/cam combo which has decent street manners with it tuned properly.

I've also put down 442rwhp with cnc'd heads w/ms3 cam 3800 stall/12bolt and I drove it everywhere without any serious drivability issues.
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Since this turned to motor talk how much power can the stock crank take? I want to build a shortblock using an iron block, I plan on 440ish n/a and spray a 200 shot if I go this route.
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In the ballpark of a setup you would like.

http://guerragroup.com/2000TA.htm
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