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07-26-2017, 06:20 AM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
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Read somewhere that water transfer design options extend beyond Affliction graphics.
Just hit up KB Motorsports to see what it would cost
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Havent me and you had a chat about that kid? Ill never bring my business there.
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99 Z28 - SBE LS1/60e
Motor - 10.84 @ 128 - 1.47 60'
Nitrous - 10.16 @ 132 - 1.40 60"
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07-26-2017, 09:20 AM
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The Mayor / 2009 Member of the Year / Moderator
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My tenant PB Hydrographics is a gearhead and does that.
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1995 Z28 Convertible A4 13.78 @ 100 (CAI, high flow cat, catback, 160 thermo, hypertech, Strano springs, Koni yellows, sway bars, 3 pt. UMI SFC)
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Is English your 2nd language? Did you graduate high school? Your posts make my head hurt.
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07-27-2017, 01:08 PM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
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Set back times
Ran into one of the first, and im sure not last, set backs of the final assembly.
Maybe some of you engine/math gurus can help shed some light because its a bit blurry to me.
Turns out the valve springs i have, are no good to use with the cam i have due to "coil bind"
The Valve springs are Brian Tooley .660 lift platinum springs with Ti Retainers.
-Spring specs are 155 lbs @ 1.780", 380 lbs @ 1.180", 400 lbs @ 1.130, coil bind @ 1.070"
The Cam is a Flowtech Cam
-.614" intake lift, .601 exhaust
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99 Z28 - SBE LS1/60e
Motor - 10.84 @ 128 - 1.47 60'
Nitrous - 10.16 @ 132 - 1.40 60"
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07-27-2017, 01:32 PM
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Coil bind clearance is: [valve-spring installed height on the seat – (cam lobe lift × rocker arm ratio) + valve lash – safety margin]
Checking it another way you can do Coilbind + Safety Margin + Valve lift = Installed height
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07-27-2017, 04:15 PM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
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What I got from my phone call with Brian Tooley:
1.780 = installed spring height
1.070 = Bind
.614 = Cam lift
1.070+ 0.614 = 1.684.
1.780 - 1.684 = .096
Aka... perfect fitment
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Motor - 10.84 @ 128 - 1.47 60'
Nitrous - 10.16 @ 132 - 1.40 60"
Last edited by LS1ow; 07-27-2017 at 05:29 PM.
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07-27-2017, 04:31 PM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
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Fast forward to my trip to my machine shop.. which I will not name yet since I do not want to oust them incase they are really not at fault here.
But anyway...
Measured of my untouched head
-valve spring hieght of 1.700
Which in turn would put me at -.015, which is not a safe zone.
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Motor - 10.84 @ 128 - 1.47 60'
Nitrous - 10.16 @ 132 - 1.40 60"
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07-27-2017, 10:52 PM
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Can they mill the seat to get you to the proper height?
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07-28-2017, 09:10 AM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6
Can they mill the seat to get you to the proper height?
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Im sure thats a possibility. But i dont know how to go about it right now. Here what we last left off at last night after talking to the machine shop, BTR and Ed Curtis.
BTR
-They think either it is a freak accident were i did get the wrong springs in the box, but super unlikely due to me buying the springs 8 months ago, thus putting them in a way past run of spring sets. There were zero other instances of this. I spoke to Nick @ BTR who was super helpful and informative. He had opened a set of the same springs i have, and also happen to have a bare head there. He measured spring height with 2 different tools. Not sure what the differences were, but he got 2 different results. 1 within the tolerance, 1 out of. So he also thinks that my shop should be measuring the incorrect way.
Ed Curtis
-Couldnt really shed much light due to not using a a spring kit they sell. But cool he took the time to respond.
Machine Shop
Seems to think either the head is out of whack, which im not sure how but whatevs. Or the wrong springs are in the box. Saw it myself, Measured height with the BTR cup and retainer and whatnot is 1.700. The height from raw spring seat to retainer is 1.760, still less than advertised 1.780.
The machine shop is calling BTR today to hash this out.
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Motor - 10.84 @ 128 - 1.47 60'
Nitrous - 10.16 @ 132 - 1.40 60"
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07-28-2017, 11:24 AM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
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The suspense is killing me.
After i got home from the machine shop debacle i threw the subframe up on my bench are started to tear it down.
The only thing off this that is being reused other than the knuckle assemblies is the steering rack.
Stripped... anyone need a LS1 K member and control arms?
The Replacement....
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Motor - 10.84 @ 128 - 1.47 60'
Nitrous - 10.16 @ 132 - 1.40 60"
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07-28-2017, 01:06 PM
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07-28-2017, 04:07 PM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
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Heads are done. Measurement error.
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Nitrous - 10.16 @ 132 - 1.40 60"
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07-28-2017, 05:41 PM
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Really? Lulz
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'24 Corvette Z06
17 Sierra 2500HD Dmax
81 Turbo TA
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07-28-2017, 06:36 PM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6
Really? Lulz
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Yeah lol "tool was not calibrated"
Kinda concerning tbh. Not so much for me, Bc the spring is a spring. As long as it's in right it's gunna work. But I don't want to imagine the issues something like a tool not being calibrated could cause in a race engine shop
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99 Z28 - SBE LS1/60e
Motor - 10.84 @ 128 - 1.47 60'
Nitrous - 10.16 @ 132 - 1.40 60"
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07-28-2017, 08:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LS1ow
Thought about doing the same thing as i did to the LS6 with the fast, but opted against. The fast is very very "wrinkley" so tape lines would be a night mare.
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If you do any paint on the fast make sure you use a good primer. I did one coat of primer and it's starting to flake away. Not happy with myself.
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99 Z28 Trick Flow 215s milled to 61cc 228/232 Cam Fast 102 built 4l65e trans 4000 converter 12 bolt 410s Electric WP deleted PS/AC Dyno & Track tuned
2015 ATS Coupe. AWD 2.0 Turbo
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07-28-2017, 08:24 PM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MDSheds_SS
If you do any paint on the fast make sure you use a good primer. I did one coat of primer and it's starting to flake away. Not happy with myself.
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Wanna trade my fresh non flakey 92 set up for your 102?! 
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99 Z28 - SBE LS1/60e
Motor - 10.84 @ 128 - 1.47 60'
Nitrous - 10.16 @ 132 - 1.40 60"
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07-29-2017, 06:51 PM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
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Before I finish of the front end, I want to replace the upper control arm uhmmm mounting plate? I guess you would call it.
Were can I find em new?
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Motor - 10.84 @ 128 - 1.47 60'
Nitrous - 10.16 @ 132 - 1.40 60"
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07-29-2017, 07:30 PM
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Don't think they exist. Clean it and por15 it.
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07-31-2017, 10:10 AM
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You can get them on rockauto
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07-31-2017, 11:07 AM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
Don't think they exist. Clean it and por15 it.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KirkEvil
You can get them on rockauto
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I cant find em.
I need these (the black plate)
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Nitrous - 10.16 @ 132 - 1.40 60"
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07-31-2017, 12:03 PM
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07-31-2017, 12:04 PM
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Lulz at the prices - https://www.classicindustries.com/sh...rms/?&p=1&sb=1
Order some used ones off Ebay that look good and spray them until new.
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07-31-2017, 12:07 PM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
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WOW.
Yeah, ill just be respraying mine then.
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Motor - 10.84 @ 128 - 1.47 60'
Nitrous - 10.16 @ 132 - 1.40 60"
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07-31-2017, 12:08 PM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
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Placed order for
-IAC
-TPS
-Oil pressure sender(broke when throwing engine on the stand)
-Starter Bolts
-Bellhousing to motor bolts
-Alternator bracket
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99 Z28 - SBE LS1/60e
Motor - 10.84 @ 128 - 1.47 60'
Nitrous - 10.16 @ 132 - 1.40 60"
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07-31-2017, 12:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LS1ow
WOW.
Yeah, ill just be respraying mine then.
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POR15
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07-31-2017, 12:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6
POR15
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yah, thats what i meant
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Motor - 10.84 @ 128 - 1.47 60'
Nitrous - 10.16 @ 132 - 1.40 60"
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