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11-04-2007, 01:46 PM
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Any1 run a short belt on their LS1's @ at the track?
just curious, i didnt want to remove my powersteering, but i could run a shorter belt. the only thing is, i dont want to waste any money if i wont pick up any time. i guess for .05 second or better it might be worth it, seeing UD crank pullies are in the $200 range and might drop .1 second
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11-04-2007, 02:52 PM
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the only time the PS pump drags is when you are turning, so i don't see how that would be much of a power savings. the real drag that is on the accessary belt is the water pump.
it wouldn't cause any harm to pull the belt for a pass. jsut make sure the battery is fuly charged and that all electric accessaries are turned off. i would only suggest doing this if you have some friends around to push the car up so that you can wait as absolutely long as possible before having to start it.
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11-04-2007, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
the only time the PS pump drags is when you are turning, so i don't see how that would be much of a power savings. the real drag that is on the accessary belt is the water pump.
it wouldn't cause any harm to pull the belt for a pass. jsut make sure the battery is fuly charged and that all electric accessaries are turned off. i would only suggest doing this if you have some friends around to push the car up so that you can wait as absolutely long as possible before having to start it.
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thanks tim! i was actually thinking of going the electric waterpump route one day, but for $500 some odd dollars or whatever it is, i think I'll wait on that
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01' Z06 62k miles. Vararam, Longtubes, off road xpipe, tuned by me. Times TBA
2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold
1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
12's on moda? One day
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11-04-2007, 10:16 PM
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yo can run he sort belt and bypss the PS pulley, analo w/ teUD pulley on there. once you have a UD pulley on you have to take the 1 bolt out froalt so ttyou dont shred the belt. do a search on tech theres a few threads about in drag tech.
im sporting the short belt mod now every day lol. i dot know howmuch of again it is tho,
-brandon
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11-05-2007, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Demonicbird00
yo can run he sort belt and bypss the PS pulley, analo w/ teUD pulley on there. once you have a UD pulley on you have to take the 1 bolt out froalt so ttyou dont shred the belt. do a search on tech theres a few threads about in drag tech.
im sporting the short belt mod now every day lol. i dot know howmuch of again it is tho,
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doood have you been drinking? lol
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01' Z06 62k miles. Vararam, Longtubes, off road xpipe, tuned by me. Times TBA
2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold
1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
12's on moda? One day
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11-05-2007, 07:16 PM
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no its my POS key board. they arent working rite ne more. lol./ wish i was drunk lol.
i shoulda showed you the setup last nite.
if you come to atco tommorrow nte il sow you the belt routing
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11-05-2007, 07:35 PM
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i should be there, but i wont be running my car, i think i might be watching/filming. my clutch has seen better days.
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01' Z06 62k miles. Vararam, Longtubes, off road xpipe, tuned by me. Times TBA
2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold
1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
12's on moda? One day
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11-05-2007, 08:20 PM
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personally i wouldnt run without a water pump on an aluminum block/head car...no matter how short the run is
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11-05-2007, 08:24 PM
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i believe the short belt would incorporate the water pump, my friend  alt, waterpump and crank
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01' Z06 62k miles. Vararam, Longtubes, off road xpipe, tuned by me. Times TBA
2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold
1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
12's on moda? One day
Last edited by 98tadriver; 11-05-2007 at 08:27 PM.
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11-05-2007, 08:59 PM
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Mr Fantastic
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 98tadriver
i believe the short belt would incorporate the water pump, my friend alt, waterpump and crank |
i was talking about what tim said...i forgot to quote him though 
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11-05-2007, 10:04 PM
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personally i wouldnt run without a water pump on an aluminum block/head car...no matter how short the run is
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the 3.8s are iron block/aluminum head.....several people have done it regularly for a few years with no reported troubles AFAIK.
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11-06-2007, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
the 3.8s are iron block/aluminum head.....several people have done it regularly for a few years with no reported troubles AFAIK.
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my 3800 had iron heads.....? pretty sure theyre all iron
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11-06-2007, 06:18 AM
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ron, if you can find a ewp for cheap on tech ( i got mine with about 1k miles for 375 on tech) its a mod that cant miss, looks better, cools better, robs less power, and it lets you run the nice 7 dollar sbc thermostats
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It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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11-06-2007, 06:19 AM
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btw whos all goin to atco tonight, my plans just got cancilled and i may cruise down in the tbss
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It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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11-06-2007, 06:25 AM
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btw whos all goin to atco tonight, my plans just got cancilled and i may cruise down in the tbss
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I hate rain  Stop NOW lol
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11-06-2007, 07:47 AM
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I hate rain Stop NOW lol |
it looks like it stopped here maybe there's nope for you in the cool part of jersey 
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11-06-2007, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GP99GT
my 3800 had iron heads.....? pretty sure theyre all iron
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Hmm...I thought the F-Body 3.8s had aluminum heads. Could be wrong though. Maybe I'm just confusing them with the 60* motors that were either or.
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11-07-2007, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by cbrrmike
ron, if you can find a ewp for cheap on tech ( i got mine with about 1k miles for 375 on tech) its a mod that cant miss, looks better, cools better, robs less power, and it lets you run the nice 7 dollar sbc thermostats
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ah nice! sup 400 dollar ewps' and 7.00 thermostats ftw!! lol ill have to keep an eye out for those. thanks
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01' Z06 62k miles. Vararam, Longtubes, off road xpipe, tuned by me. Times TBA
2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold
1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
12's on moda? One day
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