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06-07-2009, 03:25 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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X pipe
So I have been toying with the idea of buying an X pipe kit and running dumps before the axle. Summit has a nice one with cutouts in the X and stainless for 170 ish... that being said, will it be possible to have a nice deep sound at idle but not the blaring ness of an open Y car...?
Any thoughts of good mellow ish mufflers?
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06-07-2009, 04:42 PM
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Dumps can be very loud in a car - especially a hatch back, regardless of muffler brand. That said, don't overlook dynomax ultra-flows for reasonable sound & good airflow.
I'd remind you of the illegality of it but you'll cry, so I won't. 
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06-07-2009, 06:01 PM
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So I have been toying with the idea of buying an X pipe kit and running dumps before the axle. Summit has a nice one with cutouts in the X and stainless for 170 ish... that being said, will it be possible to have a nice deep sound at idle but not the blaring ness of an open Y car...?
Any thoughts of good mellow ish mufflers?
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W/ the LT1's firing order thats going to be obnoxiously loud, you could quiet it down w/ a dynomax superturbo muffler. Great flow and really quiet. That should have you in the high 13's in no time  .
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06-08-2009, 08:56 AM
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Single 3" exhaust with tailpipes rule
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06-08-2009, 08:58 AM
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Why?
Mine is way to quiet and I don't wanna drop a huge amount of money on another cat back. X pipe will flow better and give me much more choice on mufflers.
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06-08-2009, 10:42 AM
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Why?
Mine is way to quiet and I don't wanna drop a huge amount of money on another cat back. X pipe will flow better and give me much more choice on mufflers.
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You could run any muffler you want with a single 3"... Way cheaper than redoing the whole exhaust, losing ground clearance, and making your car loud and stinky inside with dumps.
My car has trapped 121mph on motor in a 1/4 mile through single 3" exhaust - it's not nearly as restrictive as people think. 
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06-08-2009, 10:45 AM
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Well ok, heres the thing, its an expensive cat back and I do not wanna cut it up. So a cheap X pipe for ****s and giggles would be more fun to screw with. As for smelling, my car does that already.
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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06-08-2009, 11:08 AM
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slaptastic had dumps on his car and hated it (kick up dirt/dust, drone, obnoxious sound under your a$$), now has 3" true duals with no mufflers and loves it. Or at least I love it 
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06-08-2009, 11:08 AM
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The idea is less weight, 3" true duals would weight a lot.
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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06-08-2009, 11:13 AM
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You can't run a chassis mount TQ arm but I'll sell you the one off of me car for $100
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06-08-2009, 11:14 AM
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How loud is it?
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06-08-2009, 11:15 AM
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The idea is less weight, 3" true duals would weight a lot.
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3" TDs are also expensive...I was just stating that he hated the dumps, and preferred tailpipes, to let you know what it was like when he had them. IMO it sounds better with tailpipes as well.
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06-08-2009, 11:16 AM
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I don't run tips now anyway, I like the look better.
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06-08-2009, 11:18 AM
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Loud as he'll at wot, but if you have sound deadening you can have a conversation while cruising
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06-08-2009, 11:20 AM
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How is it at idle?
Thats the part I need deep and mellow... don't wanna be banned from any more neighborhoods....
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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06-08-2009, 11:44 AM
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It's really deep, i'll bring it to the south meet if your going. Makes my LE cam sound great
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06-08-2009, 11:46 AM
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Yea, with an open Y my cam sounds awesome, but way way way to loud for DD use.
I may be going to the south meet, dunno yet.
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06-08-2009, 11:58 AM
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Pm sent
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06-08-2009, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
Dumps can be very loud in a car - especially a hatch back, regardless of muffler brand. That said, don't overlook dynomax ultra-flows for reasonable sound & good airflow.
I'd remind you of the illegality of it but you'll cry, so I won't. |
It can be "legal" (all other things aside) if it is not exessively loud and it exits gases behid the axle correct?
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06-08-2009, 05:55 PM
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actually its kind of biased because the inspector can choose whether or not its a failure. i'm sure if they have to get on their stomach to probe the car, they are going to fail it 
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06-08-2009, 05:56 PM
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Yea, well, LTs fail me anyways. Just saying I "could" make it legal ish to please the yuppies on NJFBOA (  ) ...
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06-08-2009, 06:05 PM
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with dumps? uh no. are you planning on a chambered muffler? some places (etown) wont let you run without a chambered muffler....yuppies
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06-08-2009, 06:07 PM
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Nah, I meant if I ran em over the axle.
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06-08-2009, 06:15 PM
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oh true
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06-08-2009, 07:28 PM
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i just got rid of my true duals and x pipe. it sounds great to be honest...but the whole reason i found it wasnt for me cause i wanted to run a chassis mount torque arm, so i traded for a y pipe and single exhaust to gain the room. it feels a tad bit slower without the duals now....if you exit it out the back it sounds good. i have pics of it and all if you want pm me i can link you...dont wanna jack your thread
edit: if your looking for a straight through muffler style check out tsp. a friend of mine has an ss with a tsp x pipe and dumps. it sounds crazy good
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