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12-07-2010, 05:53 PM
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AUDIO/VIDEO HD BLUERAY GEEKS OR GURUS.... please help me understand this
very curious about this:
HD video, LED picture quality and all that blueray bullsnet....
When a commercial comes on and shows the fabulous picture of their HD or Blueray video on my standard 65" bigscreen or my 42" flat screen.
Why is it, that picture looks so good? If I can see this awesome picture on my standard tv than why would I need another tv to see it?
Specificlly the LED tv commercial, showing this awesome picture.....
Well what makes the commercial different to make my standard tv show the quality it does in the commercial?
am I clear on this in the way I am explaining it?
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12-07-2010, 06:00 PM
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If you are watching TV in standard definition, and you see a commercial for an HD LED TV and you think the picture that it is displaying looks good, you will likely be blown away if you were actually watching the same commercial on an HDTV.
The resolution isn't improved any when you are watching commercials for BluRay or other high definition products.
What type of 42" flat screen do you have? Is it just a flat glass screen on an older CRT (tube-type) TV, or is it a hang on the wall type of flat panel LCD or plasma?
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12-07-2010, 09:01 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by S.J.SLEEPER
very curious about this:
HD video, LED picture quality and all that blueray bullsnet....
When a commercial comes on and shows the fabulous picture of their HD or Blueray video on my standard 65" bigscreen or my 42" flat screen.
Why is it, that picture looks so good? If I can see this awesome picture on my standard tv than why would I need another tv to see it?
Specificlly the LED tv commercial, showing this awesome picture.....
Well what makes the commercial different to make my standard tv show the quality it does in the commercial?
am I clear on this in the way I am explaining it?
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If the picture looks better on your Standard TV it probably looks alot better with a HD TV. Now with Blu-Rays and HD Dvd's.. The quality of those are so impressive that it blew my mind.. When we first got our HD Dvd player and PS3 I didnt know what to expect. Then I watched the 1st Matrix movie on HD DVD and it was amazing. It was like watching a new movie that I have never seen before. Now we never really go to the movies anymore because we wait for them to get onto BR.. I have a 1080p DLP 50 inch thats about 4 years old now and it still has an amazing picture.
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12-07-2010, 09:09 PM
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because that's the way the commercial was designed. To get you off your couch and into the store to check it out.
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12-07-2010, 09:30 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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65" is a hitachi bigscreen projection hd capable
42" is a vizio hd capable flat screen,3" thick hangs on wall, not sure if its plasma or what/.
I have DIrect TV & no HD service
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Originally Posted by SRGN
I never pulled into the staging beams at the track and saw a dyno in the other lane.
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12-08-2010, 07:30 AM
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52 inch Sharp Aquos LED TV here - it is utterly epic!
I already had HDtv and a blueray player (ps3) but when I upgraded to an LED tv everything else is sub standard!
N commercials will be made to look awesome so you go out and buy it
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12-08-2010, 10:36 AM
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From my understanding, LED is not a type of TV. It is just what backlights an LCD, rather than using conventional fluorescent lights. The benefit of an LCD LED is that it will be thinner, uses less energy, and gives you a brighter display and better contrast, but are more expensive.
But how much better is an LED vs. a non LED LCD? I don't know. I don't own an HD-TV, but have been reading up on them as I am planning to buy one next year. If someone can shed some light on this it would be helpful.
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12-08-2010, 04:34 PM
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Mr Fantastic
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LED vs LCD...i looked at them side by side at walmart, both were the same size, and i think both were Vizio...i personally thought the regular LCD TV looked better. and thats what i ended up with. 26" at that time, now i have a 37", both vizio
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12-12-2010, 10:06 PM
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King of Free
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it's just more vivid colors to fake a more interesting picture. Resolution is the same. You need a new TV because your old standard one sucks.
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12-12-2010, 10:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanfx
it's just more vivid colors to fake a more interesting picture. Resolution is the same. You need a new TV because your old standard one sucks.
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my standard tv from 1995 puts out the same picture as any hdtv. i honestly dont see the difference in them after shopping for one this season. i'll keep my 25'' tube tv until it breaks. 15 years and counting. thats one hell of a shelf life
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12-13-2010, 09:26 AM
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Have you watched an HD broadcast? It's night and day.
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dumbass.
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12-13-2010, 01:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knipps
Have you watched an HD broadcast? It's night and day.
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yup this year ive watched a few at my buddies house. i honestly didnt see a real difference. after looking at the ''good'' tv's and people saying not to get the cheap ones on black friday i've come to the conclusion that 1500 bucks for ''hdtv'' isnt worth it...especially when i already have a flawlessly functioning tv.
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12-13-2010, 01:54 PM
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LED back lit LCDs have a higher contrast ratio because they allow for localized lighting (you can dim some of the LEDs to make the picture darker in areas that need it). If you think the colors are fake and too vivid its because the TV needs to be calibrated. you can have Bestbuy or any other AV service do it or you can look for approximate settings online and try it yourself. Been through tons of training for this stuff and it really makes a difference. your TV color settings are in over drive to grab your attention in the store.
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12-13-2010, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon
yup this year ive watched a few at my buddies house. i honestly didnt see a real difference. after looking at the ''good'' tv's and people saying not to get the cheap ones on black friday i've come to the conclusion that 1500 bucks for ''hdtv'' isnt worth it...especially when i already have a flawlessly functioning tv.
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Maybe it's just your goofy eyes.....I could see a night and day difference between my old CRT TV and either my (now broken) Toshiba DLP and my Samsung LCD. Neither HD model is anything fancy, both are 3+ years old, only 720p.
I will say that the standard def. picture on the 27" Sony Wega flat screen CRT I have in my bedroom now is just as good or better than watching a standard def. broadcast on my 32" Samsung LCD. But switch to an HD broadcast or even a DVD that is upconverted to 720p and the difference is extremely noticeable. My DLP did not have as much of a noticeable difference between standard and HD broadcasts.
Also, you can't generalize cheap / good TVs that easily. My brother bought a really nice Panasonic Viera 42" plasma for a screaming deal on black friday a couple years ago. You just have to watch specs / reviews and know what you are looking for. You certainly don't have to spend $1500 to get a nice HDTV - there are plenty to be found for under $1,000 (depending on what size(s) you are looking at).
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12-19-2010, 10:35 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
You certainly don't have to spend $1500 to get a nice HDTV - there are plenty to be found for under $1,000 (depending on what size(s) you are looking at).
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Walmart has 42" Sharp 1080P LCD tvs for under $800.
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12-19-2010, 10:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon
my standard tv from 1995 puts out the same picture as any hdtv. i honestly dont see the difference in them after shopping for one this season. i'll keep my 25'' tube tv until it breaks. 15 years and counting. thats one hell of a shelf life
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Must be you...I have a 720p 32in. Emerson and can definitely tell a difference. PS3 games, blu rays and HD cable look great.Cant wait til I get a bigger 1080 w/ an HDMI wire.
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12-20-2010, 10:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon
my standard tv from 1995 puts out the same picture as any hdtv. i honestly dont see the difference in them after shopping for one this season. i'll keep my 25'' tube tv until it breaks. 15 years and counting. thats one hell of a shelf life
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Then you're either doing it wrong, have severely hindered eyesight, or don't know what's actually happening. Standard broadcast is 640x480 (307,200 pixels) versus 1920X1080 (2,073,600 pixels) for HD.
What's most likely happening is that your converter / cable box is downsizing any potential HD images to standard resolution to fit your screen. Just because it looks the same on your old TV doesn't mean it will look that way on a nice new TV.
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12-20-2010, 11:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanfx
Then you're either doing it wrong, have severely hindered eyesight, or don't know what's actually happening.
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12-20-2010, 12:42 PM
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lol i just dont notice a difference. i have perfect eyesight and its just nothing noticable in my own opinion. its like the difference between blu ray and dvd....i dont see any difference in that either. i guess im just not picky about these things.
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