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I also heard on the news this morning that Toyoda of Toyota is not going to speak at the Congressional hearings.
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02-17-2010, 08:54 AM
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I also heard on the news this morning that Toyoda of Toyota is not going to speak at the Congressional hearings.
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Why would a retired 96 year old executive of an alien corporation speak in front of Congress?
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02-17-2010, 08:56 AM
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I think that means the current guy in charge.
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02-17-2010, 08:59 AM
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I think that means the current guy in charge.
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Fujio Cho.
Why would a CEO of an alien corporation speak in front of American Congress?
As a side note, does he speak English?
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02-17-2010, 09:05 AM
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News I heard today was they wanted Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda. And he does speak English. Plus they do have interpreters now. Don’t really know why other than to do what congress does best at hearings. Go congressional tough guy.
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02-17-2010, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
News I heard today was they wanted Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda. And he does speak English. Plus they do have interpreters now. Don’t really know why other than to do what congress does best at hearings. Go congressional tough guy.
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Did they forget that Japan wasn't in America?
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02-17-2010, 09:57 AM
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Yes, Akio Toyoda was the one I was referring to.
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02-17-2010, 10:15 AM
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Did they forget that Japan wasn't in America?
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are you retarded? cause something isn't branded made in america means we have to bend over and take it? seriously, you are something special.
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02-17-2010, 10:40 AM
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are you retarded? cause something isn't branded made in america means we have to bend over and take it? seriously, you are something special.
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I took it as him saying that a Japanese company is not bound to listen to blowhard American politicians since they are not American. Gee, there's that pesky "doesn't matter that they build in the USA they are still Japanese" thing again. I find it kind of funny that Congress is all upset about possible cover-ups, etc. That type of thing is standard operating procedure in Asia.
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02-17-2010, 10:44 AM
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alls i know is there are dead people and no answers. ****ed up.
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02-17-2010, 11:03 AM
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just saw on the news that they may be recalling the corolla as well for a power steering issue
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ya I saw that, they just keep digging the hole deeper and deeper..
so your throttle sticks, you hit the brakes but they are also defective, so you go to steer and it doesnt respond...great job toyota
the best part is the vibe, which was recalled, can easily be stopped at WOT with gm's brake systems
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02-17-2010, 11:15 AM
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are you retarded? cause something isn't branded made in america means we have to bend over and take it? seriously, you are something special.
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American laws do not go past American borders, it's as simple as that. Other countries do not care about what Congress wants to ask, and who they want to question. Seems like you're the retarded one.
What's next, Congress is gonna summon Russian president and ask him about Human rights violations in Chechnya?
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I took it as him saying that a Japanese company is not bound to listen to blowhard American politicians since they are not American. Gee, there's that pesky "doesn't matter that they build in the USA they are still Japanese" thing again. I find it kind of funny that Congress is all upset about possible cover-ups, etc. That type of thing is standard operating procedure in Asia.
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Exactly, they are not.
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02-17-2010, 11:24 AM
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I read that he would appear if requested by Congress but as of right now the US execs are handling it, which is appropriate. Their stock is tanking worse than Enron(ok, slight exaggeration).
There is no Toyoda, there is only Zuuuul(Family Guy reference)
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02-17-2010, 11:28 AM
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I read that he would appear if requested by Congress but as of right now the US execs are handling it, which is appropriate. Their stock is tanking worse than Enron(ok, slight exaggeration).
There is no Toyoda, there is only Zuuuul(Family Guy reference)
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If he volunteers, that's one thing, but he is not obligated to do anything for the Congress.
Plus there's no point in it anyways, what is congress gonna do? And it's not like if he "lies" anything will be done about it, after all he will be back in Japan as soon as he is done.
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Oh I completely agree. It's a catch 22 for him...not going may look shady...going won't accomplish anything in front of Congress.
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American laws do not go past American borders, it's as simple as that. Other countries do not care about what Congress wants to ask, and who they want to question. Seems like you're the retarded one.
What's next, Congress is gonna summon Russian president and ask him about Human rights violations in Chechnya?
Exactly, they are not.
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It does not mean they cannot ask. I can ask you to go jump off a bridge. But it does not mean you have to. I agree he really has no reason to.
And your Russian example is not analogous; this is about a company doing business in a highly regulated market within the US borders.
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Originally Posted by Frosty
I read that he would appear if requested by Congress but as of right now the US execs are handling it, which is appropriate. Their stock is tanking worse than Enron(ok, slight exaggeration).
There is no Toyoda, there is only Zuuuul(Family Guy reference)
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FAIL. Family Guy?
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02-17-2010, 11:45 AM
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FAIL. Family Guy?
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Yeeeeessssss, Pete a reference in one episode.(can't remember the movie/show he was referencing though)
BTW, when I want your opinion I'll give it to you, k?
 
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If he volunteers, that's one thing, but he is not obligated to do anything for the Congress.
Plus there's no point in it anyways, what is congress gonna do? And it's not like if he "lies" anything will be done about it, after all he will be back in Japan as soon as he is done.
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Absolutely. Asian companies don't operate like US ones with all of our associated BS or even a similar code of ethics. Theirs is considered much worse compared to ours (by the Europeans).
So, who's going to rent Gung-Ho tonight? LOL.
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02-17-2010, 11:47 AM
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And your Russian example is not analogous; this is about a company doing business in a highly regulated market within the US borders.
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My example was referring to asking a citizen of another country to be questioned in front of Congress in order to "get to the bottom" of the "truth", or w/e they want to call it.
Did EU question Bill Gates about "his" monopoly? I'm pretty sure they made the reps get out the anal lube, but Bill Gates.
Congress can fine or w/e they wanna do to Toyota as a company that does business on their soil. However, CEO and Toyota are not the same entity, neither is the CEO obligated to do squat for the Congress. I don't see what's so difficult to understand.
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Yeeeeessssss, Pete a reference in one episode.(can't remember the movie/show he was referencing though)
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Sorry, I was under the impression that you had seen Ghostbusters.
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Sorry, I was under the impression that you had seen Ghostbusters.
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AH! That's it! I couldn't remember what movie he was referencing, yes I've seen the movies...just having a brain fart so I referenced Family Guy instead.
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American laws do not go past American borders, it's as simple as that. Other countries do not care about what Congress wants to ask, and who they want to question. Seems like you're the retarded one.
What's next, Congress is gonna summon Russian president and ask him about Human rights violations in Chechnya?
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so the plants that toyota owns on american soil are now part of japan? really?
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Then he hangs with his company. I think that it shows arrogance.
They have been playing up the Americanness of it all, but if they are gunna put that guy they have been throwing in every morning talk show for the past month, in front of congress, I hope he gets the same thrashing that the Big 3 got.
I want to hear "why cant you make quality cars like the Domestics?"
I also would love to hear from Sen.Shelby on the matter.
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My example was referring to asking a citizen of another country to be questioned in front of Congress in order to "get to the bottom" of the "truth", or w/e they want to call it.
Did EU question Bill Gates about "his" monopoly? I'm pretty sure they made the reps get out the anal lube, but Bill Gates.
Congress can fine or w/e they wanna do to Toyota as a company that does business on their soil. However, CEO and Toyota are not the same entity, neither is the CEO obligated to do squat for the Congress. I don't see what's so difficult to understand.
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So you are saying congress has zero right to even ask, regardless of the situation? And if the CEO was here in the states does that change the answer?
And CEO and company are the same entity to a degree.
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