Sooo. what does everyone think about the Rear mount turbo? - NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds

redbanditZ28 · 02-11-2006, 05:11 PM

Just making convo. I'm getting it done to my car. Can't say i have seen anyone on this forum yet that has one. Just wondering what you guys think of it. I'm talking about the Squires system by the way, not texas speed.

Tsar · 02-11-2006, 05:16 PM

there's a dude here with one

NJSPEEDER · 02-11-2006, 05:28 PM

they are good kits. i have seen a few STS kits installed. looks really easy and only mild programming is needed to take full advantage.
for packaging i like them, not the same performance potential as having the turbo up front, but still a great way to add some serious power to your car.

79dizZy28 · 02-11-2006, 10:56 PM

what's the difference in potential HP between a front/rear mount turbo?

qwikz28 · 02-11-2006, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 79dizZy28

what's the difference in potential HP between a front/rear mount turbo?

not much at all. just a little less efficient. some people swear by the efficiency of a front mount, and some swear by the convenience and reliability of a rear mount. i decided front mount to i can have a muffler

foff667 · 02-11-2006, 11:05 PM

I like the rear mount setups but I don't think the price should be as high as it is. The only problem that i've heard is people having lag especially in stock converter automatics...once the turbo spools it pulls like mad though. Converter & or gears & it'll move one way or the other.

redbanditZ28 · 02-12-2006, 12:47 PM

The only reason i am going with them is because i know it would pass NJ inspection where as Front mounts wouldn't. I mean i don't have the know how to take it off before inspection and i don't feel like paying some one to take it off and none of the Inspection places i go to in my area would pass me with a bribe. I mean the STS rear mount has a CARB number and i even emailed a person who works for NJ inspection asking him if the system would pass and he said it would as long as it had a CARB number. He said no CARB number, No pass. I would have liked the idea of a front mount too, though. Its cool though, going to cartek to get things done. They got 9 second GTOs and vettes using the STS system. And if i gotta pay my mechanic a few bucks every other year to switch the tune, i'd rather do that than just have him yank the whole system out.

redbanditZ28 · 02-12-2006, 12:49 PM

Does anyone know the user name of the guy running the system on his car on here?

Firebirdgm2000 · 02-12-2006, 12:51 PM

orangess has the sts turbo setup....

Tsar · 02-12-2006, 12:52 PM

2001orangess, but didnt he went overseas for med school?

qwikz28 · 02-12-2006, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsar

2001orangess, but didnt he went overseas for med school?

i dont know if he left yet or not but i know he hasnt been floatin around the boards that much recently

ar0ck · 02-12-2006, 04:00 PM

He hasn't left yet, hes still around... somewhere.

Savage_Messiah · 02-12-2006, 05:17 PM

He leaves in june or july

JL8Jeff · 02-12-2006, 09:27 PM

They installed one of those systems on 2 Guys Garage on an LS1 car and did dyno tests before and after. I can't remember the numbers but it was pretty good. With the long turbo to intake pipe it allows the charge to cool so no intercooler is needed and it will produce as much or even more boost than a front mount. You don't need a muffler with it because the turbo knocks down the sound of the exhaust. But it seems strange to drive that setup in bad weather.
2 Guys Garage turbo install

Brando56894 · 02-13-2006, 01:33 AM

hmm now i might actually get one, i always thought that front mounts were far superior then rear mounts. how much would a full kit cost? also you cant really run in excess of 6psi can you or am i wrong? and to jeff: why would it be strange to drive it in bad weather?

ALLMACK · 02-13-2006, 05:01 AM

Im real curious to know how the thing works out for you.
To me sounds like an awesome idea..but I question the amount of $$ it takes

Shrek · 02-13-2006, 05:54 AM

you can pick up a total kit for about 4 grand, at 7 psi, not to bad, they are pushing, 394 hp and 449 tq at the wheels...then you can get the upgrade wich requires more tuning, (not sure of the price) and get up to 12 or 15 psi.
12 psi creates close to 600 hp and over 630 lbs tq...at the whells...supposedly...sounds like a great set up to me, i'll be getting one shortly...(hopefully)... here is the link to their site..

www.ststurbo.com

JL8Jeff · 02-13-2006, 07:44 AM

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and to jeff: why would it be strange to drive it in bad weather?

I only say that because the turbo mounts where the muffler would be and driving through rain with a turbo hanging under the car right where the air intake is could lead to problems sucking in water.

HardcoreZ28 · 02-13-2006, 07:48 AM

I believe Chevy High Performance had an article about mounting up an STS kit a month or two ago. You loose about 1.5psi of boost from back to front but as stated earlier it eliminiates the need for an intercooler. Performance wise I've heard nothing but good results. As Jeff stated though they can be a problem in wet conditions. In the CHP test they had an air cleaner sock over the filter and still had problems with it sucking some water. If you don't use your car in bad weather then I say go for it.

redbanditZ28 · 02-13-2006, 11:44 AM

Don't quote me on it, but if you visit the website, i think they now include something with the turbo system to fix that water issue that wasn't included previously in the system.

Brando56894 · 02-13-2006, 01:21 PM

ehh that water issue kinda sucks cuz my bird is my DD

but for us with low/no money i found this to be pretty cool:

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and about the water issue:

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Tru2Chevy · 02-13-2006, 02:34 PM

That shield will prolly solve 99% of the water issues with the intake there.

- Justin

Brando56894 · 02-13-2006, 05:14 PM

yea the more and more i read into it the better it sounds

wonder what the lowest payment rate is for it...

Savage_Messiah · 02-13-2006, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Brando56894

yea the more and more i read into it the better it sounds

wonder what the lowest payment rate is for it...

Yea and I wonder how much it'll cost at a shop fabbing it up... and for Bill to tune it... think about everything

Brando56894 · 02-13-2006, 11:43 PM

but it will still be cheaper/easier then a front mounted turbo, im about 90% sold on this, even though i wont be getting it for awhile...

also what would the shop have to fab up? it bolts right on. if there is any fabbing involved it would only be minor stuff, much much less then what would be needed if you were to install a front mounted one. max cost for the total system including tuning and fabbing would prolly be around 6 grand