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you may have the timing set to cyl. #1 at TDC but on the exhaust stroke, not the compression stroke. meaning dizzy is 180* out. very good possibility.
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08-22-2008, 10:35 PM
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Ill give it a shot tom when the battery finally charges back up. No feeler gauge either.
Any one wanna stop by and take a look at this thing with me? I have used up everything i have left in my pocket but maybe i can give you some parts or something. Id appreicate it.
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08-22-2008, 10:39 PM
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you cannot adjust valves without feeler guages and expect everything to stay together long.
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08-22-2008, 10:42 PM
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sure you can....It takes a while to get 100% and if you move em too much the nuts get worn out(I hit mine with a sledge when that happens, hold the jokes).
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08-22-2008, 10:45 PM
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or you can buy a set for 7.95 from snap on and do it right the first time
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....re&dir=catalog
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08-22-2008, 10:53 PM
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Quote:
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you cannot adjust valves without feeler guages and expect everything to stay together long.
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Why, is he using solid lifters?
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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08-22-2008, 11:45 PM
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Quote:
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Why, is he using solid lifters?
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Not using solid lifters? More like hydraulic...
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08-23-2008, 07:56 AM
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I've never used a feeler gauge adjusting valves w/hyd lifters...but I'll wait to hear from the more knowledgible folks.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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08-23-2008, 09:51 AM
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0 lash plus 1/4 to 1/2 turn more = no need for feeler gauges.
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08-23-2008, 10:14 AM
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Sounds like dizzy is 180 out like mentioned. We all learn the hard way with this stuff, that's what makes it so much fun and why the old people offer advice. 
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08-23-2008, 03:36 PM
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Redid the timing and firing order 2 times just to double check it, cranked it over and shes screaming!! Im so happy, now I only let it run for less than 30 seconds for a few reason. Neighbors are having guest over and I want to go over all the rockers again to get them dialed in close to right before I let it run for break in. THANK YOU GUYS A TON!!!
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08-23-2008, 03:44 PM
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Woot! and wtf is a "feeler" gauge? Your engine doesn't have points does it?
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08-23-2008, 03:46 PM
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08-23-2008, 03:49 PM
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So you gonna bring it to the meet tonight?
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08-23-2008, 06:50 PM
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FINLY Congrats man.
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08-23-2008, 07:13 PM
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What meet tonight? And i drove it down the street on idle if i tap the throttle it bogs, the tranny kickdown cable isnt setup either(donno how to do that) and i need to the put the ypipe on and get it welded as well as a few other things. Any meets next week IM TOTALLY DOWN!!
Im so excited!! No more whie puffy smoke out the tail pipes car ran for 40 minutes around 2k rpms and im changing the oil now again. Its just finally coming along!!! WOOT
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08-23-2008, 07:23 PM
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Nice! Nothing like getting it running again. Now you need to figure the carb out before you run around and run too lean and overheat again. Get that y-pipe done right as well with no leaks.
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08-23-2008, 07:44 PM
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yup yup no lean conditions this time i got a holley 750 on it this time!! Alot more fuel than my old edelbrock 600.
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08-23-2008, 08:08 PM
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If anyone has a facebook you can go here to see the video.
http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php...=1028281472605
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08-24-2008, 03:46 AM
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Iv been reading alot tonight about wiped cam lobes. I must have spent betwen 2 days, 30 minutes just cranking the motor over trying to start it. Now that iv finally got it started, how would I know if I wiped a loe on my new cam? What would it sound like or do? Their was alot of time their it was cranking and not firing...def couldnt have any oil splash on the cam to lubricate it. Im hoping that the worst is not true in this case.
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08-24-2008, 07:27 AM
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Congrats. At this point don't worry about the cam. If there is an issue it will tell you eventually.
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What kind of trans? If that is a TV cable (700R4), get it adjusted soon or your trans will suffer.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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Quote:
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Iv been reading alot tonight about wiped cam lobes. I must have spent betwen 2 days, 30 minutes just cranking the motor over trying to start it. Now that iv finally got it started, how would I know if I wiped a loe on my new cam? What would it sound like or do? Their was alot of time their it was cranking and not firing...def couldnt have any oil splash on the cam to lubricate it. Im hoping that the worst is not true in this case.
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Congrats on getting it running!
If you lubed the cam before installing it you got no worries about wiped lobes. If you put it in dry, prepare for another lesson.
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08-24-2008, 09:08 AM
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If you installed the cam bearings the right way and lubed it before you stuck the cam in, you should have no problem.
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08-24-2008, 12:22 PM
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O i lubed the hell out of the cam and lifter bottoms before putting it in. Used rottella t with a zinc additive as well.
As for the tv cable im not sure if I need an additional bracket for the holley 3310 carb or not. Who can adjust that properlly for me, any local trans shop?
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