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Old 11-17-2017, 10:06 AM   #1401
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Is this going to be like FFB where it never runs but keeps getting nice shiny new racecar parts?
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Old 11-17-2017, 10:22 AM   #1402
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Is this going to be like FFB where it never runs but keeps getting nice shiny new racecar parts?
Close. Itll never run but mine will be composed of mostly used and second hand items.
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Old 11-17-2017, 10:45 AM   #1403
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You could build that tubular front end for half the price.

Next post better be a video of your car idling. I'm too invested in this!
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Old 11-17-2017, 12:09 PM   #1404
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Old 11-17-2017, 12:53 PM   #1405
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You could build that tubular front end for half the price.

Next post better be a video of your car idling. I'm too invested in this!
He can't start the car, you want him to cut it up and weld things properly lol

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Old 11-17-2017, 01:08 PM   #1406
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So I assume any hope of a last big push this weekend is a big no?
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Old 11-17-2017, 02:05 PM   #1407
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Now I may be wrong, but if the car won't start and idle N/A then what is forced induction going to do for it?
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Old 11-17-2017, 03:11 PM   #1408
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You could build that tubular front end for half the price.

Next post better be a video of your car idling. I'm too invested in this!
Way out of my range of skill lol

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He can't start the car, you want him to cut it up and weld things properly lol


I can cut with the best of em, the whole welding thing is not more forte

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So I assume any hope of a last big push this weekend is a big no?
Push is happening, but pretty much impossible. Ill have all night tonight and all day tmmr after i get out of work. With alignment and tune being my 2 biggest hurdles.

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Now I may be wrong, but if the car won't start and idle N/A then what is forced induction going to do for it?
nah, if i were to go forced induction this motor would be coming out anyway.
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Old 11-19-2017, 08:36 AM   #1409
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Old 11-19-2017, 01:11 PM   #1410
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Here’s my most recent findings, upon throwing the pushrods back in to try to start with stock MAF and IAT, i came across what I think may be the cause of my issue.

3/4 of my lifters have a “give” to them. When putting in the pushrod, i can push down on it and it will give a bit, then spring back up. 1/4 of them have 0 give at all. Like they are solid. Motor hasn’t been cranked in over a week, so is it possible there is still oil pressure in them?

I installed the pushrods and tightened down the rocker on one of the effected cylinders and did a leak down test. Air comes out both the intake and exhaust as apposed to coming out f the crank case on the other tested cyl.

When installed all lifters were seated again the cam lobe, oiling hole all facing same way. However after some debate i DID NOT soak them in oil before install. Just some assembly lube on the roller and cup.

Is it possible I’ve wiped out some of my lifters? They aren’t any crazy high dollar unit, just LS7s
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Old 11-19-2017, 01:19 PM   #1411
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Not likely that you wiped them out. Not sure I get you on the leakdown test, when you did it last did you have the pushrods installed? Is the cam on the base circle?

If the pushrods are slightly too long but the lifters aren't completely filled with oil, the lifter cup will be 'springy' and take up the excess pushrod length. Once the lifters are full of oil, they'll show the effects of the too-long pushrod because the lifter cup is supported by the hydraulic pressure of the oil in the lifter.

If you're saying that you bolted down the rockers on a cylinder, *and* the cam is on the base circle (meaning both valves closed) and the air is blowing out of the intake and exhaust ports, then the pushrods are too long which is keeping the valves open.

If you remove the rockers from that cylinder that is losing air from both the intake and exhaust and it continues to lose air there, then those valves aren't seating. Not sure what cam you're running or what's been done to the heads but maybe not enough piston to valve clearance, leading to bent valves?
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Old 11-19-2017, 02:37 PM   #1412
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Not likely that you wiped them out. Not sure I get you on the leakdown test, when you did it last did you have the pushrods installed? Is the cam on the base circle?

If the pushrods are slightly too long but the lifters aren't completely filled with oil, the lifter cup will be 'springy' and take up the excess pushrod length. Once the lifters are full of oil, they'll show the effects of the too-long pushrod because the lifter cup is supported by the hydraulic pressure of the oil in the lifter.

If you're saying that you bolted down the rockers on a cylinder, *and* the cam is on the base circle (meaning both valves closed) and the air is blowing out of the intake and exhaust ports, then the pushrods are too long which is keeping the valves open.

If you remove the rockers from that cylinder that is losing air from both the intake and exhaust and it continues to lose air there, then those valves aren't seating. Not sure what cam you're running or what's been done to the heads but maybe not enough piston to valve clearance, leading to bent valves?
I never did a leak down on this particular cyl. I only did the cyl 1 & 2. Got the same results so moved on. Both Cyl 1 & 2 lifters has spring to them. This cyl lifter had no spring to it. So when bolted down there was no “absorbing” the extra length. With the pushrods in and rockers bolted down, the leakdown test had air coming out the intake and exhaust. With the pushrods out, the leak down test passes.
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Old 11-19-2017, 02:50 PM   #1413
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Did you ever get the proper pushrod measuring tool? Really starting to sound like them ****ers are too long....
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Old 11-19-2017, 03:15 PM   #1414
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I'll bet tree fiddy that the pushrods are too long, at this point.
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Old 11-19-2017, 04:56 PM   #1415
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Did you ever get the proper pushrod measuring tool? Really starting to sound like them ****ers are too long....
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I'll bet tree fiddy that the pushrods are too long, at this point.
Yes, new comp cams pushrod measuring tool came out to 7.250 pushrods. 9 turns of the tool to close. Rockers tightened down, zero lash.
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Old 11-19-2017, 06:13 PM   #1416
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Cut the ones you have, and get your ass to Racewars tomorrow!
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Old 11-19-2017, 06:36 PM   #1417
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Finally was able to get a pushrod checker. Started short and adjusted to till there was no rock in the rocker.

Like a doofus, measured with a ruler and sat 7.250.

Then after Kirk hit me with a

I took out the mic and it was really 7.312. Leaving my options at 7.375 for .062 preload, or 7.400 with .088 preload.
So you are telling me the ruler was right?!?!



What ones did you go with?
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Old 11-22-2017, 04:00 PM   #1418
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So you are telling me the ruler was right?!?!



What ones did you go with?
I think he ordered a variety pack.
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Old 11-23-2017, 09:12 AM   #1419
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Old 11-27-2017, 01:02 PM   #1420
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7.300 rods installed + rockers torqued last night. Valve covers + coils + crap go on today afterwork and then we hope for results.
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Old 11-29-2017, 07:39 AM   #1423
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