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Old 01-27-2009, 03:59 PM   #1
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Paint

anyone have an idea's on a cheap sprayable paint that wont peel or chip in less than a year?

i was looking at duplicolor solid shades
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Old 01-27-2009, 04:01 PM   #2
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what are you painting?
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Old 01-27-2009, 04:10 PM   #3
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i dont have the time or the money to do the nocturne blue and bird/trim

so i was just gonna paint it a solid color

hugger orange, orbit orange, carousel red, was thinking of sublime green, but, that would look rediculous

any color suggestions or paint suggestions? lol
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Old 01-27-2009, 04:28 PM   #4
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i suggest you prime the car and keep it there until you are ready to paint it
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Old 01-27-2009, 04:34 PM   #5
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you are going to paint the entire car with cans of spraypaint?
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Old 01-27-2009, 04:37 PM   #6
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no, i have a sprayer, but im pretty sure it wouldnt do a metallic job that well

im just considering painting it a solid color for the time being
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Old 01-27-2009, 05:01 PM   #7
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if you have a spray gun........and want to do a basic color go to your local paint supplier and ask them what they can recomend, that way they will also be able to provide you the proper prep supplies for the job.

you also have to make sure your air compressor will be enough to maintain power to the gun so the spray is even throughout the job
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Old 01-27-2009, 05:03 PM   #8
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it is, we painted our house with it

i was just hoping to buy a can off ebay or something
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Old 01-27-2009, 05:12 PM   #9
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if you buy a can, you will still need the proper flex agent, sealant, clear, etc.
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Old 01-27-2009, 05:19 PM   #10
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some of the kits come with it, some dont, i dont know too much about paint
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i dont know about quality of the duplicolor stuff, but i have read about the kits and from what i have seen and heard, their instructions for mixtures as well as tech support seems pretty good
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Old 01-27-2009, 05:24 PM   #12
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yeah, they run from 38-170 bucks on ebay, im just gonna shop around
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I dont know about the paints durability. But you might be able to get more out of it by getting a good auto primer. Primer is very reasonable even on a very tight budget and redused a gal might make 2 gal. depending on type and manu. Also a couple of cans of plastic adhesion promotors for the front and rear bumpers will help with the paint stay. Cant gaurantee how well the dupli and car primer will adhere to each other but with the primer you prob will get the best bond for what you want to do. Napa paint is also prob preetty cheap. As long as you put the effort in with the prep work it prob turn out ok if not decent. On a side note I had spraypainted my 81 camaro with john deer spraypaint. The yellow and black both held up well for over a yr. than I wanted different colors so used silver and blue. The john deer blue faded in a couple of months. Its gonna be hit or miss. I wish you luck and let us know if it works out.
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if you don't have that much to spend why not look into a Maaco job. Do the prep work yourself as well as the disassembly and you should be fine.
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Old 01-27-2009, 08:18 PM   #15
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i was going to do that on my old bird, but they said they have to do the prepwork themselves to "keep a good reputation"
i was like ********
idk, they guy who sold me it said he has a friend whos good, if it isnt too much i might do that, but ill most likely do it myself
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post a pic of its current status and let some of us painters/resto guys look at it and point ya in the right direction. If you were in south jersey I would help ya out and spray it for now. But its gonna end up costing you so much to strip it down in the future.

At least try to use a PPG or BASF single stage if your gonna do it yourself to make it easy on ya
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Old 01-27-2009, 11:05 PM   #17
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My friend did a Dupliclor single stage job on his Jeep, it came out really, really nice. Its only been 6 months or so since he did it, and its held up very well to the elements and to trails.
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Old 01-27-2009, 11:31 PM   #18
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yeah, im not goin hardcore 5 coats, just one coat

im probly going to hammer out the fender and bondo it tommorow, the rest of the car is pretty solid, just minor rust here and there, and the floors are solid
drivetrain is sound and interior is pretty good, the body just needs straightening out and paint
most of the decals have been removed except the bird, im trying to figure how to take it off in one piece

its a piece of ****, but its my piece of ****

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Why are you concerned about taking the decal off in one piece?
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i was using an orbital sander, and for the smaller decals it takes them off pretty evenly, but im afraid the bigger one will leave gouges, cause who ever owned this car previously had a thing for putting stickers on it, and i had sanded some off previously, and it left 2 gouges, and easy fix, but the bird covers most of the hood
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Another cheap option, roll on paint. Hot Rod and Super Chevy both did it for under $100 and it looks like it turns out pretty good from the pictures.
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:53 AM   #22
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I'd spray a coat of sealer over that laquer paint first so you don't erupt it. Dupont Centari is fairly inexpensive, single stage, and buffs well.
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You cannot seal lacquer.....either paint over it with lacquer or strip it down to bare metal. End of story.
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:43 PM   #24
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yeah i have that issue of hot rod, i was thinking about that too
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You cannot seal lacquer.....either paint over it with lacquer or strip it down to bare metal. End of story.


lacquer plus other paints is asking for trouble dont do it. just do what you can with the body (get a new fender its needed your never gonna get that straight) and spot prime it.
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