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Old 01-15-2018, 10:22 AM   #101
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Read that as well. Pretty cool they are opening up the diesel game. The use of lightweight materials in certain areas is a nice touch. Aluminum body panels means hopefully less chance of corrosion too.

I wonder if GM will offer a bigger infotainment screen like the new Ram.
WOW! That's huge!
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Old 01-15-2018, 10:52 AM   #102
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WOW! That's huge!
12" screen. Shame the rest of the truck will probably be garbage.
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Old 01-15-2018, 11:20 AM   #103
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Do you need a full sized iPad in your dash to help call AAA and Ram service? Seems like an iPad mini would work as well for that.
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Old 01-15-2018, 11:36 AM   #104
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Do you need a full sized iPad in your dash to help call AAA and Ram service? Seems like an iPad mini would work as well for that.
No but the nice thing is that you can do both at the same time since the bigger screen allows for split screen. Efficiency!
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Will the screen at least rattle as much as the rest of the vehicle?
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Old 01-15-2018, 01:29 PM   #106
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Do you need a full sized iPad in your dash to help call AAA and Ram service? Seems like an iPad mini would work as well for that.
Gotta be able to watch Netflix while waiting for the tow
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On the whole "Aluminum = Less corrosion"... Yeah, nope.

Almost all of out newer fire trucks are aluminum bodied. The ones that are getting to the 5-6 year old mark have corrosion issues where there aren't any holes, but the paint is coming up in sheets with white powdery aluminum oxide under it.
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Old 01-15-2018, 03:19 PM   #108
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On the whole "Aluminum = Less corrosion"... Yeah, nope.

Almost all of out newer fire trucks are aluminum bodied. The ones that are getting to the 5-6 year old mark have corrosion issues where there aren't any holes, but the paint is coming up in sheets with white powdery aluminum oxide under it.
Nah. Dodge has a good history of fine quality paint.

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That screen is huge!

Different grades of aluminum out there will hold up to natural elements differently.....I'm sure it'll be ****
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On the whole "Aluminum = Less corrosion"... Yeah, nope.
more correctly it should rear like the warranties do..."less corrosion perforation" - that aluminum takes longer to rot to the point of perforation than steel.

corrosion warranty on new cars is junk. here is your 2017 ford corrosion 'not covered'. other makes i have rear seem similar.

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The New Vehicle Limited Warranty does not cover surface rust,
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appearance items that result from use and/or exposure to the elements.
You, as the owner, are responsible for these items. Some examples are:
•dings, dents
•cuts, burns, punctures or tears
•road salt
•tree sap, bird and bee droppings
•windstorm, lightening, hail
•earthquake
•freezing, water or flood
•stone chips, scratches (some examples are on paint and glass)
•windshield stress cracks. However, limited coverage on windshield
stress cracks will be provided for the first 12 months or 12,000 miles
(which ever occurs first), even though caused by use and/or exposure
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On the whole "Aluminum = Less corrosion"... Yeah, nope.

Almost all of out newer fire trucks are aluminum bodied. The ones that are getting to the 5-6 year old mark have corrosion issues where there aren't any holes, but the paint is coming up in sheets with white powdery aluminum oxide under it.
Meh, depends.

All the stuff I make at work is aluminum based, and we never have rust/corrosion issues.

All depends on how the metal is coated.
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That screen is huge!

Different grades of aluminum out there will hold up to natural elements differently.....I'm sure it'll be ****
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Meh, depends.

All the stuff I make at work is aluminum based, and we never have rust/corrosion issues.

All depends on how the metal is coated.
I'm sure you're using aerospace grades, 2024/7050/7075 maybe even some 6061.

The new cars and trucks are probably 3003/5052 or some other commercial alloy.
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Old 01-16-2018, 08:49 AM   #113
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Must be a scary future for body shop guys with all the aluminum. It cost us a ton of money to get all the tools and training to do aluminum repair. I cant imagine a private body shop being able to swing such a thing as easy. And part availability is a nightmare as well. Only certain people can order them (Im one of them) so sometimes you cant even use your normal supply guy. I think the days of bringing your car to anything but a in house dealer body shop are going to end. For anything new atleast lol
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Must be a scary future for body shop guys with all the aluminum. It cost us a ton of money to get all the tools and training to do aluminum repair. I cant imagine a private body shop being able to swing such a thing as easy. And part availability is a nightmare as well. Only certain people can order them (Im one of them) so sometimes you cant even use your normal supply guy. I think the days of bringing your car to anything but a in house dealer body shop are going to end. For anything new atleast lol
You don't think the aftermarket won't reproduce everything in steel?
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You don't think the aftermarket won't reproduce everything in steel?
Bolt on parts yeah, they already do it for our cars. But anything that is "bolt on" you dont need to be certified for. For instance if the door on your car is Aluminum, any one can walk in and buy one. But if your looking for something like a frame rail or the inner section of the 1/4, anything structural(the stuff you have to be certified to buy/work on), i don't think so. Or at least i haven't seen anything yet.
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On the whole "Aluminum = Less corrosion"... Yeah, nope.

Almost all of out newer fire trucks are aluminum bodied. The ones that are getting to the 5-6 year old mark have corrosion issues where there aren't any holes, but the paint is coming up in sheets with white powdery aluminum oxide under it.
go with the stainless bodies, ours are holding up great, ones almost 30 years old with zero paint issues

our explorer police cars hoods all had to be repainted under warranty for the paint peeling off the aluminum.
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our explorer police cars hoods all had to be repainted under warranty for the paint peeling off the aluminum.
ours did that and ford denied the claim. that was the last straw, i traded it in after that.
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go with the stainless bodies, ours are holding up great, ones almost 30 years old with zero paint issues

our explorer police cars hoods all had to be repainted under warranty for the paint peeling off the aluminum.
Trying to convince the department heads that it's worth the added expense is similar to trying to ice-skate uphill.
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