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01-23-2009, 09:32 AM
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Why do 4th gen guys continue to call a tail pan a berger panel? Not sure what Berger Chevy has to do with any of this. Berger did not invent black paint on tail panels.
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Last edited by BonzoHansen; 01-26-2009 at 06:57 PM.
Reason: culled from another thread...
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01-23-2009, 01:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
Why do 4th gen guys continue to call a tail pan a berger panel? Not sure what Berger Chevy has to do with any of this. Berger did not invent black paint on tail panels.
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You're really going to try and start that again?
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dumbass.
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01-23-2009, 02:04 PM
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You're really going to try and start that again?
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I consider it educating the Camaro owners who don't know Camaro history.
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Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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01-23-2009, 02:23 PM
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ah geez bonzo
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01-23-2009, 06:22 PM
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Silly kids! Don't even know that a blacked out tailpanel is from the old SS396 cars! And the factory did not use gloss black, more of a satin black on the tailpanel and rockers I believe. I would just call it a custom tailpanel, and leave Berger out of it. I actually like the CAMARO letters with the inserts myself. I actually have the black tailpanel on my SS396, the Z28 emblem on my 69 Z28 and the CAMARO letters on my 2000 so I've got them all covered. Your custom tailpanel came out good.
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01-23-2009, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JL8Jeff
Silly kids! Don't even know that a blacked out tailpanel is from the old SS396 cars! And the factory did not use gloss black, more of a satin black on the tailpanel and rockers I believe. I would just call it a custom tailpanel, and leave Berger out of it. I actually like the CAMARO letters with the inserts myself. I actually have the black tailpanel on my SS396, the Z28 emblem on my 69 Z28 and the CAMARO letters on my 2000 so I've got them all covered. Your custom tailpanel came out good.
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Yup just a silly kid who has read 4 Camaro books and written 2 school papers on them... But you're right because I dont own a SS 396 I couldnt possibly know right? Well anyway, I installed it today and I must say it looks great. I will get pictures tomorrow.
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01-23-2009, 08:29 PM
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yes, take his light hearted comment personally. That's the best thing to do.
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dumbass.
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01-25-2009, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 1994lt1
Yup just a silly kid who has read 4 Camaro books and written 2 school papers on them... But you're right because I dont own a SS 396 I couldnt possibly know right? Well anyway, I installed it today and I must say it looks great. I will get pictures tomorrow.
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You really don't want to go toe to toe with Jeff on Camaro History LOL. He owns two (maybe 3) of the cars that are in those books. And he's right. "Berger panel" is not accurate to Camaro heritage. Or musclcar heritage for that matter. But you didn't coin the term!
Panel looks good though. You did a good job.
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01-26-2009, 04:53 PM
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its like sayin i'm gettin a stall converter. we're wrong and most of us get why. cheese
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01-26-2009, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
its like sayin i'm gettin a stall converter. we're wrong and most of us get why. cheese
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And yet you still make the mistake.
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01-26-2009, 05:28 PM
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its not a mistake. its easier to refer to it as a berger panel then whatever the hell the real name is. blame gmmg! people call ls1's 350's and i don't know why?
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01-26-2009, 05:39 PM
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its not a mistake. its easier to refer to it as a berger panel then whatever the hell the real name is. blame gmmg! people call ls1's 350's and i don't know why?
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Because a 5.7L was a 350 for, I dunno, 30+ years?
The term is tail panel. You can choose to learn or continue to sound like an idiot.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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01-26-2009, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
Because a 5.7L was a 350 for, I dunno, 30+ years?
The term is tail panel. You can choose to learn or continue to sound like an idiot.
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Tail Panel is correct... its even in my estimating program with GM part #s lol
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01-26-2009, 06:37 PM
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Because a 5.7L was a 350 for, I dunno, 30+ years?
The term is tail panel. You can choose to learn or continue to sound like an idiot.
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because the ls1 is, i dono, 345.7 c.i. and i'm the idiot?
so if we call it a berger panel for 30+ years, that makes us correct?
so be it!
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01-26-2009, 06:51 PM
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Repetition makes it true.
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01-26-2009, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
because the ls1 is, i dono, 345.7 c.i. and i'm the idiot?
so if we call it a berger panel for 30+ years, that makes us correct?
so be it!
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GM marketed it as a 5.7, never as a 346 or whatever. Don't be pissed because your wrong.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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01-26-2009, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
GM marketed it as a 5.7, never as a 346 or whatever. Don't be pissed because your wrong.
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gmmg built '02 camaros into Dick Harrell Edition Supercars exclusively for berger chevrolet. these cars have their tail panel painted a flat black with polished stainless camaro inserts. this is where the term came from. deal with it.
because gm marketed their ls1 in metric displacement makes calling it a 350 correct?
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01-26-2009, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
gmmg built '02 camaros into Dick Harrell Edition Supercars exclusively for berger chevrolet. these cars have their tail panel painted a flat black with polished stainless camaro inserts. this is where the term came from. deal with it.
because gm marketed their ls1 in metric displacement makes calling it a 350 correct?
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I did not say calling it a 350 was ok. I explained why it was a common MISTAKE.
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Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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01-26-2009, 07:17 PM
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my point still stands with the dick harrell supercars.
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01-26-2009, 07:19 PM
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Well, if you buy one then you too can have a 'berger panel'. Otherwise you have a black tail panel.
Although that is still illogical. I guess if Reedman puts their dealer plate/sticker on a tail panel then you'd have a Reedman Panel?
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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01-26-2009, 07:19 PM
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Camaros have corvette engines!
lol
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01-26-2009, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
Well, if you buy one then you too can have a 'berger panel'. Otherwise you have a black tail panel.
Although that is still illogical. I guess if Reedman puts their dealer plate/sticker on a tail panel then you'd have a Reedman Panel?
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**** I have a Lucas Tailgate.
The Camaro had a Patterson Panel.
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01-26-2009, 07:30 PM
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yup just like how 1st gen guys make replica yenkos and such i have a replica dick harrell supercar when it comes to tail panels.
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01-26-2009, 07:31 PM
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yup just like how 1st gen guys make replica yenkos and such i have a replica dick harrell supercar when it comes to tail panels.
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I don't condone cloning....its immoral and against nature...
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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01-26-2009, 07:31 PM
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You guys sound like mustang guy arguing over which body kit is cooler.
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