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WayFast84 · 08-09-2006, 03:25 PM

so I can get a motor thats smogged, put a action plus intake, cam it and it can be a decent street motor?

WildBillyT · 08-09-2006, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by WayFast84

so I can get a motor thats smogged, put a action plus intake, cam it and it can be a decent street motor?

Yes.

If I were you, I wouldn't spend a dime on your 305 and find yourself a 350. There are plenty of them out there. You may even luck out and find a 400 out of a caprice or other large car. Then it's REALLY game on.

WayFast84 · 08-09-2006, 04:44 PM

all right I got my headers un attached from the y pipe and the block I got the drivers side out, but I cant get the passanger side out.

project89 · 08-09-2006, 05:12 PM

matt one more word of advice.dont start disconecting stuff till u have a new motor to go in.

WayFast84 · 08-09-2006, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by lethalrides2k3

matt one more word of advice.dont start disconecting stuff till u have a new motor to go in.

It doesnt matter cause I gotta paint the engine bay any way. how much hp would a cam only L98 have around?

Pampered-Z · 08-09-2006, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WayFast84

so I can get a motor thats smogged, put a action plus intake, cam it and it can be a decent street motor?

UGGGG!!!

Matt, LISTEN TO ME!!! Your getting ahead of yourself again! READ UP FIRST. What do you want, just to say you have 400HP? Can you tell me why the Action Plus is the right intake for your engine?

To answer your question, you are only partially right, but not 100%

For the most part a smog motor is nothing more then a standard short block, flat top piston motor, with a cam designed to reduce emmisions and heads with big chambers to reduce compression, this would relate to a carbed or TBI motor.

In the late 80s with fuel injection and TPI the builders were able to better control the Air/Fuel ratios so heads with smaller chambers could be used to increase compression and gain HP, but these heads still retained smaller valves and ports then an aftermarket/high performance head.

Putting in a cam and intake will only give you some gains, if you want real gains you'll need to look at the entire engine, and again you need to decide first what you want to end up with before you can begin

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Let's start over. What do you want your car to do? Street cruiser/ occasional strip. Street/strip 50/50 Strip with occasional street?

AND WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING TO DO WITH THE CAR???

WayFast84 · 08-09-2006, 05:43 PM

street strip, more street then strip

project89 · 08-09-2006, 05:51 PM

wayfast if u can find a flattop shortblock my uncle has those bowtie heads/victor jr intake/and holley 750 carb for 400$'s. would deff be a nice street/weekend warrior setup.
u would have to change the valve springs and get a matyching cam to put it all together,

WayFast84 · 08-09-2006, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lethalrides2k3

wayfast if u can find a flattop shortblock my uncle has those bowtie heads/victor jr intake/and holley 750 carb for 400$'s. would deff be a nice street/weekend warrior setup.
u would have to change the valve springs and get a matyching cam to put it all together,

where can I gte a flat top short block> and could yah help me with a matching cam?

WildBillyT · 08-09-2006, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WayFast84

where can I gte a flat top short block> and could yah help me with a matching cam?

You may be able to get one already prebuilt from your local machine shop.

project89 · 08-09-2006, 06:38 PM

well if u want brand new shortblock i have one,well sorta its a bare machined block.with crank and rsized shotpeened rods with arp wavelock bolts.ill get rid of cheap.u would have to buy pistions and the bearings to assemble it.about 200$'s
but u can get a shortblock from anywere,junkyard classifieds etc.though buying a used shortblock i would recomend installing new bearings and rings anyway if the bores check out

WayFast84 · 08-09-2006, 07:20 PM

how much for the block? and how much would it cost to get everything installed?

project89 · 08-09-2006, 07:38 PM

ill take 500$ for the block/crank/rods,and when u buy the pistions/bearings ill even assemble the shortblock for u
500 may seem much but the block has been cleaned/checked bored and honed .030 over,and painted, and its a 4 bolt main/the crank is perfect 0/0 stock size journals not a mark on them/and the rods have been resized fluxed and shotpeened,and have arp weavelocks installed
ill even throwe in the right flywheel/dizzy and other compnents i have laying around to go with it

WayFast84 · 08-09-2006, 07:44 PM

Ill tell you what, when My mom gets home I will talk to her about it, and if she says yes, Id want to pay for forged pistons, a cam, and your uncles intake/heads/carb all together and installed so id have the peace of mind its done right.

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will you still trade for the nitrous?

project89 · 08-09-2006, 07:46 PM

ill assemble the whole thing for u if u like,dont forget u will still need a cam/valve springs,and a gasket set.
i will trade for nitrous but cash/nitrous ill knock it down to 250$ with the nitrous kit
fair enough?

WayFast84 · 08-09-2006, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lethalrides2k3

ill assemble the whole thing for u if u like,dont forget u will still need a cam/valve springs,and a gasket set.
i will trade for nitrous but cash/nitrous ill knock it down to 250$ with the nitrous kit
fair enough?

knock what down to 250?

I have the gasket set so really id need to buy pistons cam/valve springs

project89 · 08-09-2006, 07:52 PM

the block/crank/rods/+the other odds and ends i have +getting it assembled for free
250 and the nitrous kit and u have a deal if u think thats fair

project89 · 08-09-2006, 07:53 PM

the heads and stuff arent mine so i cant cut u a deal on those and for 400$'s ur already getting a deal anda half on them

WayFast84 · 08-09-2006, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lethalrides2k3

the block/crank/rods/+the other odds and ends i have +getting it assembled for free
250 and the nitrous kit and u have a deal if u think thats fair

Ok so Ill need part numbers for forged pistons and a matched cam/valve springs

Thanks alot, and if you would also be intrested in a action plus intake I wont need it if I get the head/intake/carb

project89 · 08-10-2006, 08:57 PM

wayfast before i sell u or assemble anything for u.im gonna need ur parents to sign a waiver,after talking with a few ppl this may be a very bad idea to give somone ur age a motor that can/will make alot of power .god forbid i build this thing for u and crash it,i am liable for building the engine and can be sued by ur parrents

WayFast84 · 08-10-2006, 10:51 PM

well how much power will it have, and what numbers would it run in the 1/4th?

thats no problem btw

project89 · 08-11-2006, 08:37 AM

depends on a few things,i need to get some info from u before i can match up any parts.im at workj now but ill be oon later tonight to get the info from u so i can start looking stuff up and give u the parts numbers/total cost

WayFast84 · 08-11-2006, 11:33 AM

allright I DONT want a ten second motor just yet(doesnt want a cage), Ill take a low 12 or high 11's though

WayFast84 · 08-11-2006, 03:16 PM

o yeah, Ill be returning my nitrous and my cam, because I realized how much I paid for the camshaft.. so it would make sence to return them both.

project89 · 08-11-2006, 07:35 PM

wayfast the heads were on an old 355 in a 3,400# car and was going high 10's low low 11's,but that was with 11.0-1 cr ratio and a massive cam.

for u i figure it best to keep the cr to 9.0-9.5-1 and a cam around 224/234@50 .520/.510.to let this thing have nice street manners and to keep the power level down.u by no means need forged pistions,alls u have to get are hyperetic,

from summit for a whole engine kit flattop or dome pistions/w rings , bearings,oil pump,freeze plugs,full engine gasket set is ;about 300,if the cam dosent go any larger then what i posted above the springs on the heads are fine,and ur looking at 100$'s for a cam.
what were the specs on the cam u have now?