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09-06-2010, 10:03 AM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Wheel Studs
Stock ten bolt, are these the correct wheel studs?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ARP-100-7708/
And will they be sufficient to be used with drag wheels?
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09-06-2010, 10:10 AM
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those should be them... they are the same exact ones i bought for the front of my car... i would get an extra pack of them even though i know you only need two but i got an extra pack and ended up screwing one stud up so it was good that i had extras... i have 4 spares though if you need an extra one... also i bought some really cheap summit brand opended lugs to zing them on with a few washers... the lugs you use to zing them on shouldnt be used over htough becuase they are pretty shot after wards i think iwent through like 4 lugs putting all 10 fronts on... and also you may need open ended lugs to clear the extended stud or just larger closed end but that may need to be measured...
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09-06-2010, 10:13 AM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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I am gonna get I guess two sets for now and do the rear up, I got a set of cheapo lugs from advance so that should be good to go.
What kind of lugs did you end up going with?
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09-06-2010, 10:35 AM
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on the front im just using a simple open eded summit brand lug nut... they arent pretty but they work... and are cheap http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-7540021/ when i get nicer wheels ill get some nice matching closed end nuts to go around... for now these work fine
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09-06-2010, 11:18 AM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Ok, thanks Brandon, what do your rears look like with stock style rims on?
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09-06-2010, 12:01 PM
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my rear studs are what came on the strange axel and are only around 2" the stock lengths are like 1.6" but its just enough to get away with the drags so im still using a closed ended lug in the rear... so it just looks stock. the fronts are where they stick out like crazy... but tiz needed for skinnies...i would get a couple packs of the cheapo summit lugs that are open jsut in case your closed ones dont fit... and you can always measure them and get new ones later on when you have more $$
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09-07-2010, 01:04 PM
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Not sure now on how long I need to get for the rear studs, I found a set for 15 and a set for 30...
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09-07-2010, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by transmaro93
my rear studs are what came on the strange axel and are only around 2" the stock lengths are like 1.6" but its just enough to get away with the drags so im still using a closed ended lug in the rear... so it just looks stock. the fronts are where they stick out like crazy... but tiz needed for skinnies...i would get a couple packs of the cheapo summit lugs that are open jsut in case your closed ones dont fit... and you can always measure them and get new ones later on when you have more $$
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Huh??? A drag wheel looks stock? I confused ...
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Not sure now on how long I need to get for the rear studs, I found a set for 15 and a set for 30...
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As I said in the chat room. The ones that are only 1" longer are at the very bare minium of being legal for weld wheels. Spend the money on the 1 3/4" longer ones. You can get away with the 1" extended set in the front with skinnies. I just run closed lugs up front.
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09-07-2010, 04:48 PM
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Huh??? A drag wheel looks stock? I confused ....
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I think he means so the lugs/studs give it a stock look
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09-07-2010, 05:06 PM
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ya, with the stock wheels on
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09-07-2010, 05:07 PM
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but track tech wants to see that the stud sticks into the main portion of the lug 1/2 not including the washer.
I've seen them ask questions with closed ended nuts.
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ya, with the stock wheels on
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so hes using closed ended acorn nuts with stock wheels. Got ya.
With the 1" extended studs i can't get the plastic caps on the stock lugs using stock wheels
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09-07-2010, 05:53 PM
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yea i used closed end nuts on the rears too with my drags, but im still legal and they didn't ask questions probably because my fronts are clearly extended....
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09-09-2010, 08:17 PM
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I just got some bolts from home depot instead
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09-09-2010, 09:23 PM
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i hope they are grade 5!
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09-14-2010, 04:59 PM
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I got the studs in, they wouldn't fit at first so I dremeled the wheel hub a bit.
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09-14-2010, 05:53 PM
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your kidding right? they press in....
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09-14-2010, 06:02 PM
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Well they didn't fit, so I just opened em up, now it works!
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09-14-2010, 06:34 PM
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dude your not sopposed to open the holes... those were the correct facotry replacments... they dont just slide right in you need an air gun and install tool or old lugs and some washers to drive them in... i really hope your joking because if you did what i think you did its probably not that safe and you may need a new axle now...
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09-14-2010, 11:03 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Well I thought with a nut and thread rod it would be fine?
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09-15-2010, 06:59 AM
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I figured after having a wheel fall off you'd be wary of screwing up. It is important the hole is the right size. You did probably screw it up. Air gun is also the wrong way to install them as well.
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....you need an air gun and install tool or old lugs and some washers to drive them in....
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You are supposed to press them. The air gun method over stresses the stud. The are press in not pull in. I guarantee if you call ARP and ask they will agree with me. We've all done the air gun method, especially on single studs, but if I just had 5 studs break and I was building a car with more power than stock and I used drag radials, upgraded studs and such, I'd do it right. But that is just me.
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09-15-2010, 08:12 AM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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 I was just messing with Brandon, the studs are still sitting on my desk in pretty ARP packaging.
So Bonzo, I need a press and just have it push the stud into the hub?
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09-15-2010, 08:24 AM
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Yes, push them in from the back is the correct method.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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09-15-2010, 08:30 AM
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Ok, I will go to a shop for that tmmr then.
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09-16-2010, 01:40 PM
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Only a tad bit too long... I blame Tim...
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09-16-2010, 01:46 PM
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just break the extra off with your bare hands.
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