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07-15-2014, 08:14 PM
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I'm not impressed. Regardless of being 800+/- lbs heavier than a C6Z, it makes an extra 200 horsepower and still doesn't cover the 1/4 mile any faster. (That 10.80 pass is not on stock tires).
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07-15-2014, 11:52 PM
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Lots of things. Your company and Jalopnik have issue, BTW.
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07-16-2014, 04:09 AM
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da faq you smoking?
The new Z28 tromps this barge.
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Challenger appeals to me more than the z28. I'd have an easier time using that power on a more regular basis than I would the z28s road course handling prowess
plus the challenger looks way better
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07-16-2014, 06:39 AM
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I love the challenger look and now the power to match!! It states that the motor is already coming out forged from the factory. That means a little more tweaking from the after market industry you will have an easy 800 plus horsepower beast to play with.
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07-16-2014, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by zraffz
I'm not impressed. Regardless of being 800+/- lbs heavier than a C6Z, it makes an extra 200 horsepower and still doesn't cover the 1/4 mile any faster. (That 10.80 pass is not on stock tires).
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That's a great argument bro
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07-16-2014, 08:31 AM
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They are claiming you can get this car out the door for around $65,000! It's an amazing bargain and really going to hurt the ZL1.
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07-16-2014, 08:41 AM
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The ZL1 Camaro weighs in over 4100 lbs. The current GT500 is about 3850 lbs. I don't think its fair to call this car overweight for being 4200-4300lbs. The ZL1 turns pretty well (I hear) and is only about 100 pounds less.
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07-16-2014, 11:53 AM
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The ZL1 Camaro weighs in over 4100 lbs. The current GT500 is about 3850 lbs. I don't think its fair to call this car overweight for being 4200-4300lbs. The ZL1 turns pretty well (I hear) and is only about 100 pounds less.
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The current SRT is 4250lbs. Add 200lbs for supercharging. Puts it at 4450lbs. That's heavy right there.
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07-16-2014, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Featherburner
The current SRT is 4250lbs. Add 200lbs for supercharging. Puts it at 4450lbs. That's heavy right there.
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Just rechecked my source and the weight I read was for a current SRT. My bad
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07-16-2014, 12:17 PM
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The ZL1 Camaro weighs in over 4100 lbs. The current GT500 is about 3850 lbs. I don't think its fair to call this car overweight for being 4200-4300lbs. The ZL1 turns pretty well (I hear) and is only about 100 pounds less.
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They are calling for a target of 4,400lbs, which is freakin heavy. Relatively speaking against the competition it isn't of course.
Problem is the power to weight, even at 10:1 lbs/hp, you would need 440hp in the Hellcat to keep up with a 350hp, 3500lb car. Obviously the gap get wider as you want to go faster. I went 127mph with my 550hp, 3500lb 3rd gen - imagine what another 150hp would do...
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07-16-2014, 12:21 PM
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I bet it will ride nice.
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07-16-2014, 12:22 PM
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Another 1200lbs and you are at 3/4 ton truck level, be quite sad when this barge gets beat by a legit land barge.
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07-16-2014, 12:28 PM
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from yours truely
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07-16-2014, 12:42 PM
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Official Pricing came out. The Hellcat starting price is $59,995. I think thats a pretty good starting point.
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07-16-2014, 01:06 PM
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So much awesome ignorance in this thread. Slap a pulley on it, race wheels with tires, and drop some weight then everyone in here will stfu. I don't understand how that is hard to comprehend. High 10's with a pair of tires is fuggin awesome for 60k!
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07-16-2014, 01:21 PM
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60k?
I know for sure I spent less than that on mine, but again, the point you should be arguing is that it run 10s with a warranty. That and with factory nice stuff that all work as they should, and a prob awesome crash rating etc. Also, it prob has a very fancy launch control so driver error is effectively removed.
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07-16-2014, 01:23 PM
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and you can drive it across country.
i'm no dodge guy, but that is a neat car if you can get it for that price
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07-16-2014, 01:23 PM
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Official Pricing came out. The Hellcat starting price is $59,995. I think thats a pretty good starting point.
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Yup, it would be awesome if you could get one for that price. But. I see dealers adding their cut plus that price doesn't include delivery/prep. Realistically, $70,000.
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07-16-2014, 01:29 PM
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Let's see them on the street for reals. If this is the case, then chevy and ford need to step their game up. Maybe bring back a firechicken that can do 10s with a turbo
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07-16-2014, 01:45 PM
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Cool car, lots of power and not a bad price compared to the other pony car offerings. It will be interesting to see how closely what hits the streets resembles what is being promoted.
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07-16-2014, 02:28 PM
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So much awesome ignorance in this thread. Slap a pulley on it, race wheels with tires, and drop some weight then everyone in here will stfu. I don't understand how that is hard to comprehend. High 10's with a pair of tires is fuggin awesome for 60k!
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don't forget to put a carb on it lol
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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07-16-2014, 04:18 PM
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I think its awesome for 60 grand you get a 10 second car with warranty, and a forged motor you can throw around and beat on right from the factory. You can probably crank up the boost, add mufflers, and tune it and get a nice increase in horsepower without voiding your warranty.
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07-16-2014, 04:50 PM
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60k for that car is amazing. even if its not on stock tires thats still a low 11 second car, with some really mean looks, modern technology and a pretty sweet interior. Honestly for those talking about modifying the car, I dont see the need...for a street car you dont need anything more than what this car is offering.
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07-16-2014, 08:18 PM
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I'm surprised at the price. We all know out of the 3 muscle cars that the challenger has the most problems going around turns. Dodge is at least making it the fastest in a straight line at a price that I think makes it very competitive to a GT500 offering.
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07-16-2014, 11:39 PM
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srt president/ceo (and all around cool guy Ralph Gilles) at Carlisle a week ago (I really wanted should've went..lol)...burnout contest w/the hellcat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMVl7FIZkz4
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