If anyone still doubted the Chalenger's boat status...

[Savage_Messiah]

From the car and driver lightning lap


tht thing is HUGE

[Blackbirdws6]

That's a HUGE %&^%! I see one driving on the opposite side of the road on my way home and the size def. stands out.

[deadtrend1]

ehhh .... its a little big.

[mc73nova]

It's on the big side.

Is there one of you who wouldn't drive it though? I applaud Mopar for building their SRT line of vehicles.

[BigAls87Z28]

Originally Posted by mc73nova

It's on the big side.

Is there one of you who wouldn't drive it though? I applaud Mopar for building their SRT line of vehicles.

Dont ask silly questions.
SRT line is great...but SRT8 is 10k more and .5 slower then the Camaro SS.

[deadtrend1]

:sigh: here we go again .........

[mc73nova]

The srt is a lot more than $10K more than a Camaro because there is no Camaro.

If you were in the market for a sports car that offered room for more than 2, what would you get GM doesn't offer a Camaro/Firebird type of vehicle. Yes one day there will be a Camaro/Firebird built but unless you are a diehard fan you aren't going to wait until the year 20??

[mc73nova]

Originally Posted by deadtrend1

:sigh: here we go again .........

lol, it seems like it!

[ws6 jim]

looks like the fat cheerleader of the group you know ...the one always at the bottom of the pyramid

[qwikz28]

anyone see the results? the challenger did shockingly well even though its a "boat"

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...p_2008_feature

http://www.caranddriver.com/content/...08+Results.pdf

[Tru2Chevy]

Originally Posted by mc73nova

If you were in the market for a sports car that offered room for more than 2, what would you get GM doesn't offer a Camaro/Firebird type of vehicle. Yes one day there will be a Camaro/Firebird built but unless you are a diehard fan you aren't going to wait until the year 20??

The Camaro will be on Dealer lots within 6 months as a 2010 model.

- Justin

[ar0ck]

Its funny how its almost similar in size to a CTS-V!

[Rich189]

it actually looks a little bit bulkier then the cts-v to me... im not a big fan of the challenger the front looks good the back looks alright but the sides look way to bland not to mention the size

[FBODS4EVER]

challenger 4140lbs srt8

specs:
In Detail
price $37 995
engine 90 Degree, Cast Iron, Hemi V8
position Front Longitudinal
aspiration Natural
valvetrain Pushrod OHV, 2 Vavles per Cyl
fuel feed Sequential, Multi-Port Injection
displacement 6059 cc / 369.7 cu in
bore 103 mm / 4.06 in
stroke 90.9 mm / 3.58 in
compression 10.3:1
power 316.9 kw / 425 bhp @ 6200 rpm
specific output 70.14 bhp per litre
bhp/weight 226.3 bhp per tonne
torque 569.44 nm / 420 ft lbs @ 4800 rpm
redline 6400
body / frame Unit Steel
driven wheels LX Platform RWD w/ESP
wheel type Forged Aluminum SRT
front tires P245/45 R20 Goodyear F1 Supercar
rear tires P255/45 R20 Goodyear F1 Supercar
front brakes Discs w/Brembro 4-Piston Calipers, ABS
f brake size 360 mm / 14.2 in
rear brakes Discs w/Brembro 4-Piston Calipers, ABS
r brake size 350 mm / 13.8 in
front wheels F 50.8 x 22.9 cm / 20 x 9 in
rear wheels R 50.8 x 22.9 cm / 20 x 9 in
steering Rack & Pinoin w/Hydrualic Power Assist
f suspension A-Arms w/Coil Springs over Bilstein Gas Shock Abosrbers, Stabilizer Bar
r suspension 5-Link w/Coil Springs over Bilstein Gas Shock Abosrbers, Stabilizer Bar
weight 1878 kg / 4140 lbs
wheelbase 2946 mm / 116 in
front track 1600 mm / 63 in
rear track 1603 mm / 63.1 in
length 5022 mm / 197.7 in
width 1923 mm / 75.7 in
height 1448 mm / 57 in
transmission W5A580 5-Speed Auto
gear ratios 3.58:1, 2.19:1, 1.41:1, 1.00:1, 0.83:1
final drive 3.06:1
top speed 273.53 kph / 170 mph
0 - 60 mph 4.9 seconds
0 - 1/4 mile 13.7 seconds
drag 0.353 Cd
fuel econ 16 L/100 km or 15 mpg


now im not a huge fan of the car. but it is impressive with the 0-60 and 1/4 times with over 4100lbs.

[Knipps]

the pic just makes it seem bloated IMO

[12secondv6]

Sexy as hell though.

[NJSPEEDER]

The Challengers big problem

front tires P245/45 R20 Goodyear F1 Supercar
rear tires P255/45 R20 Goodyear F1 Supercar

It doesn't matter if it was the 500 or so lbs lighter that the Camaro is supposed to be or not with them donuts. Someone should send Ford and Chrysler a letter and let them know that rim can be made more than 8inches wide.

[BigAls87Z28]

Originally Posted by mc73nova

The srt is a lot more than $10K more than a Camaro because there is no Camaro.

If you were in the market for a sports car that offered room for more than 2, what would you get GM doesn't offer a Camaro/Firebird type of vehicle. Yes one day there will be a Camaro/Firebird built but unless you are a diehard fan you aren't going to wait until the year 20??

15 weeks till production
On sale in a few months.

I dont know why people keep talking down the Camaro like its still a concept.

[BigAls87Z28]

Originally Posted by FBODS4EVER

challenger 4140lbs srt8

specs:
In Detail
weight 1878 kg / 4140 lbs
wheelbase 2946 mm / 116 in
front track 1600 mm / 63 in
rear track 1603 mm / 63.1 in
length 5022 mm / 197.7 in
width 1923 mm / 75.7 in
height 1448 mm / 57 in

now im not a huge fan of the car. but it is impressive with the 0-60 and 1/4 times with over 4100lbs.

CTS-V

Weight 4200-4300lbs
Length 191.6
Width: 72.5
Hight: 58

CTS-V IS smaller then the Challenger. Camaro is 2 inches shorter and 4-5 inches lower then the CTS-V, but about the same width as the Challenger. So looking at the CTS-V next to the Challenger can give you a good idea of what it will look like when Camaro and Challenger face off.

[GP99GT]

who seriously gives a flying **** what each car is? holy ****. just buy the god damn car you want and shut the **** up. get off GMs nuts, its all about preference, as it always has been.

[qwikz28]

no one has any comment on the cobalt SS? whats wrong with you guys?

[maroman88]

Originally Posted by qwikz28

no one has any comment on the cobalt SS? whats wrong with you guys?

ummm id love to have one!

[Savage_Messiah]

Originally Posted by qwikz28

no one has any comment on the cobalt SS? whats wrong with you guys?

About how it tore the **** out of the competition? Pretty sweet.

[rscamaro73]

Originally Posted by mc73nova

If you were in the market for a sports car that offered room for more than 2, what would you get ??

GTO ??

G-8 ??

Still GM

[BigAls87Z28]

Originally Posted by GP99GT

who seriously gives a flying **** what each car is? holy ****. just buy the god damn car you want and shut the **** up. get off GMs nuts, its all about preference, as it always has been.

So people can swing off the Challenger's nuts, and no problem, but when I bring in the Camaro, Im the nut swinger...right.

My perference is Camaro. And I talk about it, just like when people defend thier own car. So what makes me different? Cause im more vocal about it?
Dont like the talk, stay teh **** out of the thread.