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Old 09-21-2008, 11:16 AM   #176
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what the hell do u think my v6 is, pretty much a god dam stock motor, ive only broken one of those and that was from detonation (cause i accidently threw 25* of advance under boost when i first installed my standalone).my brand new motor runs a cast piston.
u do not need forged internals to run boost.just dont let it detonate
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Old 09-21-2008, 11:17 AM   #177
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Old 09-21-2008, 11:18 AM   #178
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Any upgrade to fuel system?
no i plan on doing this all off the stock computer and injectors

of course im doing the fuel system, set of msd 50# injectors,aeromotive fpr, dual walboro 255's,and a megasquirt 2 standalone
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u do not need forged internals to run boost.just dont let it detonate
Really? I think a lot of engine builders would be out of work if that were the case...
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Old 09-21-2008, 11:22 AM   #180
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for the lil bit of boost i plan on running the stock internals will be fine,just gots resist turning it up.thats always the hard part.but i have the v6 for that,the lt1 is gonan be a driver plain and simple
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Old 09-21-2008, 11:24 AM   #181
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Really? I think a lot of engine builders would be out of work if that were the case...
u know what i meant, i have no plans on pushing this thing, if i did yeah then id worry about forged ****,and even at that it would just be a new set of rods and pistons to lower the cr some

7-9 psi on the stock **** is fine with meth
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Old 09-21-2008, 11:25 AM   #182
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WOW my brain hurts...I think you are going to demolish another perfectly good F-body...unless you plan on running 600+hp you don't need 50lb/hr injectors. When you get this abortion on the road call me...I'll race you with my 88 Saab, cause with your track record anything that can finish will win
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Old 09-21-2008, 11:26 AM   #183
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hahahaha yes...

dude your idea of easy is twisted and more or less retarded...I think your just intimidated by having 8 cylinders and bottom end torque. you know with GMs you don't have to cluster **** a turbo in to make real power, maybe you should get a 95+ mustang with a 4.6, they fit your idea of building engines. a half assed turbo set up would be right at home
hijack...............96+, 95 still had a 5.0.................hijack
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Old 09-21-2008, 11:27 AM   #184
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for the lil bit of boost i plan on running the stock internals will be fine,just gots resist turning it up.thats always the hard part.but i have the v6 for that,the lt1 is gonan be a driver plain and simple
WHAT!!!!! why in gods name would you boost a DD and run such an ineffecient fuel set up...where you dropped on your head or has V-tech not kicked in yet?????
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hijack...............96+, 95 still had a 5.0.................hijack
true my bad
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just cause u have a big injector in something dosent mean u have to use up all the injector

a set of 42's would actually be enough but since i have a set of 8 50#'s im not gonna waste the money and go buy a new set of 42's
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Old 09-21-2008, 11:29 AM   #187
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so your going to run the 50s at less than optimal duty, with less that optimal fuel pressure...you sir...have no business under a hood
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Old 09-21-2008, 11:29 AM   #188
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and how the hell is that ineffciant. so what the pulse widths will be kept low that dont make it inefficient
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He does have a point.
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yes it does...the injectors are going to end up out of sync with the valves and....you know what....how about this...you do what ever pleases you...after all it is YOUR car...but when it blows up...just buy a honda and give up
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so your going to run the 50s at less than optimal duty, with less that optimal fuel pressure...you sir...have no business under a hood
wrong will still be base fp and raised 1-1 with boost. pulse width is only injector open time it does not matter whether the injector is @ 10ms or 20 ms it still does the same thing. there is no such thing as optimal duty cycle,only max duty cycle and if ur anything over 90% u need new injectors i should be able to run these things at 60%

look at the guys running th efast gn's they all have 60#+ injectors and need nowere near that amount of fuel
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Old 09-21-2008, 11:35 AM   #193
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yes it does...the injectors are going to end up out of sync with the valves and....you know what....how about this...you do what ever pleases you...after all it is YOUR car...but when it blows up...just buy a honda and give up
wow u really are a moron a batch fire system has no relation to valve opeing neways.

even if i ran it in sfi mode the injector will only open when its supposed to,(determined by a cam sensor) it dont care how long its open it still opens and closes when its supposed to pulse width has nothing to do with determining when an injector opens and closes. thats why the max pw is 25.5 msec or 100% duty cycle cause anything more then that and the injectors hangs open

maybe u should read up more on fuel injection and know what the **** ur talking about before u come try to start ****
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He does have a point.
who has a point lol
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Old 09-21-2008, 11:40 AM   #195
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oh and sfi systems convert to batch fire above 3k rpms anyway so try again
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haha wow dude...your talking about the V-6 fuel systems, we're talking about LT1 I think you need to really look over your ****. I know how the **** works...I custom built a fuel system for my 3.4 and I messed around with a buddies MS programing...you are GOING to **** up its gonna go lean and your going to melt the pistons...I know how duty cycle works, and i'm tellin you with the amount of boost your runnin and the size of the injectors its going to cause problems

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umm hello dumbass they run the same **** injectors and fi is the same.
like i said go read some **** and know wtf ur talking about running a low pulse width means nothing. it dosent affect a single dam thing

the only diff is instead of being open 20 msec its open 12 msec the injector still starts to open at the same time it would even with smaller injectors it just closes earlier

the only way it will go lean is if i **** up my fuel tables ms knows what size injectors are in the motor just like u would tune a stock pcm for an injector change

ive proved u wrong now stfu and gtfo
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you do realize you are still defending yourself in a thread titled "GTFO" with a pic of your car getting booted off the line... no matter what u say... that wont change
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you do realize you are still defending yourself in a thread titled "GTFO" with a pic of your car getting booted off the line... no matter what u say... that wont change
yeah i know but im having fun making bubba look like a moron
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the more you say the dumber you look....you don't catch on to quick do ya
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