the great journy of a lowly f-body

[bubba428]

when i'm done i'll let you know

[NJSPEEDER]

this isnt supposed to be a call out forum guys. if you have any advice to add about setting up the car , that is fine. wait until everyone invovled has running vehicles to set the races up though.

[bubba428]

http://static.summitracing.com/globa...sm-70-1208.jpg
$234.39 not bad for headers...combined with the uper and piston swap i should be able to get rid of the rasp in the exaust note...and once the cam goes in...damn...i can wait to get this show on the road

[NJSPEEDER]

it is a V6, there wil always be rasp in the exhaust note.

[Savage_Messiah]

[bubba428]

yea i know...i should have said most...it won't cracle as bad at least

[bubba428]

ok heres the lay out...final plans as to begin ASAP

i'm gonna make it easy on my self and get a complete 3400 motor
i was quoted $650 so... i included the summit part number if you guys want to take a look at this stuff

ALL ENGINE PARTS= $650
Cam Shaft = $125..................p/n 162234
behive springs $129................p/n 2691512
headers $234........................p/n 701208
so thats 900...i just need a throttle body and all is good

o and hey kasey...summit sells the same headers for the 3.8 for the same price, they have 1.5 in primaries

[GrandmasterCow]

Originally Posted by 88FormulaChick

just buy a 98-00 SS....lol. people ask me why i dont mod my 3.8L auto 2000 firebird...im like, why put the money into it when i can save that money, sell my car an get a 00-02 black on black WS6 T/A....someday.

thats exactly what alotta ppl told a budddy of mine, now hes proudto show he has a turbo 99 v6 camaro, pushing 560 to the wheels at least and can get more when he gets his meth kit installed and gets it retuned. some ppl just want a challenge.

[bubba428]

Originally Posted by GrandmasterCow

thats exactly what alotta ppl told a budddy of mine, now hes proudto show he has a turbo 99 v6 camaro, pushing 560 to the wheels at least and can get more when he gets his meth kit installed and gets it retuned. some ppl just want a challenge.

ok there are a few of yas that get it...its onthing to make a 350 or a 400 go fast...but what about a v6...i'm trying to prove that an american v6 can run very low teens with a minimal whole in the wallet total so far is looking around 1100-1300 to pull a 13 1300-2k to run in the low 11s depending on how insane i want to go

[Savage_Messiah]

Originally Posted by GrandmasterCow

thats exactly what alotta ppl told a budddy of mine, now hes proudto show he has a turbo 99 v6 camaro, pushing 560 to the wheels at least and can get more when he gets his meth kit installed and gets it retuned. some ppl just want a challenge.

internet name / location???

[Savage_Messiah]

Originally Posted by bubba428

ok heres the lay out...final plans as to begin ASAP

i'm gonna make it easy on my self and get a complete 3400 motor
i was quoted $650 so... i included the summit part number if you guys want to take a look at this stuff

ALL ENGINE PARTS= $650
Cam Shaft = $125..................p/n 162234
behive springs $129................p/n 2691512
headers $234........................p/n 701208
so thats 900...i just need a throttle body and all is good

o and hey kasey...summit sells the same headers for the 3.8 for the same price, they have 1.5 in primaries

hw many miles are on your engine? think about lifters, pushrods, timing chain, gaskets, etc. all the little stuff.



OK I just checked out those valve springs on summit, there is NO WAY IN ALL HELL THAT YOU NEED 313 LB VALVESPRINGS!!!!

The cam part # doesnt work.

And like I said check out texas speed if you're doing headers, the ones summit has for $234 are $204 over there.


Here's what I'm gonna recommend you... go check out www.abbottracingheads.com and look at the 60* cam packages they've got. If you have questions call them, Lance is a good guy who knows what he's talking about. Tell him Kasey sent ya

EDIT: I'll just copy/paste it for you...
79-95 (2.8-3.4L) 60* V-6

Camshafts
-212/212 @ .050"
-.440" lift on the intake with a 1.5 rocker
-.440: lift on the exhaust with a 1.5 rocker
-110 Lobe Separation Comp Cams K-kit (includes, cam, lifters, springs, retainers, locks, timing chain, and valve seals)



$304.57

[GrandmasterCow]

Originally Posted by bubba428

ok there are a few of yas that get it...its onthing to make a 350 or a 400 go fast...but what about a v6...i'm trying to prove that an american v6 can run very low teens with a minimal whole in the wallet total so far is looking around 1100-1300 to pull a 13 1300-2k to run in the low 11s depending on how insane i want to go

That was just to show that ppl with a V6 can still make it fast if you can afford it. Yes you can do alot to a V6 and not spend too much, look at craig (Little g) he's running i think low 13s and really doesnt have a lot done.

Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah

internet name / location???

he doesn't really use the internet lol but ive been good friends with him for years, he just kept his V6 while i moved into the LS1 world. he made a custom turbo kit using pacesetter headers and making a log type, GT4288 turbo, magnaflow exhaust, 3.5" downpipe, he did his entire fuel system and all forged internals with diamond ceramic top turbo pistons.

[Savage_Messiah]

wheres he live?

[Mike]

why does anyone need to prove american v6's can run fast......turbo buicks, tta's and sy/tys have been doin it since the 80's

we KNOW they can be fast. we also KNOW that using the word budget and fast v6, dosent work....and im sorry but im gonna dissagree with it ever sounding good.

[1_Hot_SOM_WS6]

Originally Posted by cbrrmike

why does anyone need to prove american v6's can run fast......turbo buicks, tta's and sy/tys have been doin it since the 80's

we KNOW they can be fast. we also KNOW that using the word budget and fast v6, dosent work....and im sorry but im gonna dissagree with it ever sounding good.

+1!!!!!!!

[IROCdan330]

i agree with cbrrmike on this...however its not my wallet or my time so i wish you the best of luck on this thing.

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by cbrrmike

why does anyone need to prove american v6's can run fast......turbo buicks, tta's and sy/tys have been doin it since the 80's

we KNOW they can be fast. we also KNOW that using the word budget and fast v6, dosent work....and im sorry but im gonna dissagree with it ever sounding good.

My GTP probably runs in the mid-high 13's, and there really isn't that much different than stock. As far as sound, I agree. I have an aftermarket downpipe, a Magnaflow cat, and an SLP loudmouth and although it doesn't sound awful, it's not as deep as a V8 and therefore doesn't sound as good.