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[NastyEllEssWon]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

See, this is why if you are a fan of making MJ legal, you do not bring up the "oh, but its better/just as bad as *insert other bad thing* to use!" argument because it just enters the slippery slope.

If you want to legalize it, you push the $$$ factor or even the ecologocial factor, not the "its better than meth" argument.

this is why you cant have this debate, because you get the hard heads that ignore all the good things and focus on whatever they want to say and make all sorts of comparisons and get off track forgetting the original argument of economical repair and only remember what they said about meth and coke.

[LTb1ow]

Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

this is why you cant have this debate, because you get the hard heads that ignore all the good things and focus on whatever they want to say and make all sorts of comparisons and get off track forgetting the original argument of economical repair and only remember what they said about meth and coke.

Does a fiend need his fix?

Still do not feel comfortable with it being fully legalized as like alcohol. Dunno why. Guess a lifetime of anti drug propaganda did work?

[BigAls87Z28]

Anyone could make the argument to legalize anything, crack, guns, marrying animals, whatever.
Unlike crack, meth, etc etc, MJ is just more acceptable, easier to implement, and is home grown here in the US already, and is very safe overall.

[LTb1ow]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

Anyone could make the argument to legalize anything, crack, guns, marrying animals, whatever.
Unlike crack, meth, etc etc, MJ is just more acceptable, easier to implement, and is home grown here in the US already, and is very safe overall.

So why can't I make steroids in my house?

Not harming anyone, and, I am sure they could advertise on the Jersey Shore show with great results.

Eh?

[BigAls87Z28]

Originally Posted by LTs1ow

So why can't I make steroids in my house?

Not harming anyone, and, I am sure they could advertise on the Jersey Shore show with great results.

Eh?

There are lots of people that make supplements in their home. I don't think that the FDA gets involved in it at all either.
Steroids though, I believe, do have to go through the FDA. If you can make it in your house, pass the FDA, knock yourself out.

[Squirrel]

Originally Posted by LTs1ow

So why can't I make steroids in my house?

Not harming anyone, and, I am sure they could advertise on the Jersey Shore show with great results.

Eh?

you can, for personal use
hell, i can hypothetically buy my PCT from a research chemical company.... hypothetically

[LTb1ow]

Originally Posted by Squirrel

you can, for personal use
hell, i can hypothetically buy my PCT from a research chemical company.... hypothetically

Orly?


brb....

[Slow-V6]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

See, this is why if you are a fan of making MJ legal, you do not bring up the "oh, but its better/just as bad as *insert other bad thing* to use!" argument because it just enters the slippery slope.

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

Anyone could make the argument to legalize anything, crack, guns, marrying animals, whatever.
Unlike crack, meth, etc etc, MJ is just more acceptable, easier to implement, and is home grown here in the US already, and is very safe overall.

So I am not a fan because I said MJ is Better/or just as bad as other drugs opposed to saying MJ is more acceptable then other drugs like you did.. Got it.. Thanks for clearing that up..


How about we stop fighting everybody elses war and that should help with the countries budget.. Instead of legalizing an illegal drug to help with our nations money issue..

I was stationed on 3 different aircraft carrier while in the Navy. You know it costs around 50,000 a day to keep a carrier out to sea... There are 8 carriers stationd in Norfolk VA and we went down to Norfolk for Easter weekend and there was 1 Carrier in port and the rest of the 7 out to sea... So for Easter Sunday alone the US Goverment spent around 350,000 for 1 day to have 7 ships out to sea.. Thats not including the rest of the battle group as there are 8-10 other ships that deploy with each carrier... Who know what it costs the US to keep those ships running each day..

Make MJ legal for Medication is fine, but to legalize it in hopes of helping for saving our economy is not the answer when our Armed forces are deployed in how many countries now fighting how many other countries civil wars??? How many nations helped us during our cival war??

[LTb1ow]

Legalize MJ, disregard armed forces... acquire pushover lame stoner nation status!

Huzzzah.

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by LTs1ow

Legalize MJ, disregard armed forces... acquire pushover lame stoner nation status!

Huzzzah.

If I wanted to live in Canada I'd move there.

[NastyEllEssWon]

Originally Posted by Slow-V6

So I am not a fan because I said MJ is Better/or just as bad as other drugs opposed to saying MJ is more acceptable then other drugs like you did.. Got it.. Thanks for clearing that up..


How about we stop fighting everybody elses war and that should help with the countries budget.. Instead of legalizing an illegal drug to help with our nations money issue..

I was stationed on 3 different aircraft carrier while in the Navy. You know it costs around 50,000 a day to keep a carrier out to sea... There are 8 carriers stationd in Norfolk VA and we went down to Norfolk for Easter weekend and there was 1 Carrier in port and the rest of the 7 out to sea... So for Easter Sunday alone the US Goverment spent around 350,000 for 1 day to have 7 ships out to sea.. Thats not including the rest of the battle group as there are 8-10 other ships that deploy with each carrier... Who know what it costs the US to keep those ships running each day..

Make MJ legal for Medication is fine, but to legalize it in hopes of helping for saving our economy is not the answer when our Armed forces are deployed in how many countries now fighting how many other countries civil wars??? How many nations helped us during our cival war??

marijuana is not a drug. its a naturally occurring plant. there is nothing done to the marijuana to make it get you high. its just a plant nothing more nothing else.

if you want to read about why marijuana is illegal read a book called The Emperor Wears No Clothes by Jack Herrer (rip). it goes into the whole deal. its only illegal because big oil and big wigs stood to lose a ton of money from all the products that marijuana could be made into cheaply, efficiently and more money would go to the farmers who grew it because of its low cost overhead to grow it.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by WildBillyT

If I wanted to live in Canada I'd move there.

You'd have to say "eh" after every sentence and start loving hockey and maple syrup....and Celine Dion....you can't handle it.

oh and Bryan Adams too.

[Slow-V6]

Well Its Classified as a drug as my machines that do Drug testing test for it.. Cannabinoids I believe is what it is called. It might be all natual but its still considered a drug..

[NastyEllEssWon]

Originally Posted by Slow-V6

Well Its Classified as a drug as my machines that do Drug testing test for it.. Cannabinoids I believe is what it is called. It might be all natual but its still considered a drug..

its only a drug because the government says it is to line the pockets of the very ones you guys are complaining about when gas prices go up. you can turn a blind eye all you want, but when you complain about big oil companies but continue to support the illegalization of marijuana all youre doing is lining the pockets of the people you are trying to fight.

right now you just need to weigh it on the scales of justice. is keeping marijuana illegal and big wigs rich worth it to keep americas industry down in the dumps, or would you rather let a few non violent offenders out of jail, save money locking them up, give medicine to those that need it and revitalize a dying industry in america.


when you think about it like that the only reason you really want marijuana illegal is because of a few people getting high? its not like mj use will rise, it will stay the same, only thing that would change is that you cant fault anyone for using it after that.

[LTb1ow]

I do not see how abuse levels will not rise once it becomes legal for it to be had.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by LTs1ow

I do not see how abuse levels will not rise once it becomes legal for it to be had.

Will you start smoking if it was legal? No? Neither would most people(myself included).

[WiMiMc]

Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

if you want to read about why marijuana is illegal read a book called The Emperor Wears No Clothes by Jack Herrer (rip). it goes into the whole deal. its only illegal because big oil and big wigs stood to lose a ton of money from all the products that marijuana could be made into cheaply, efficiently and more money would go to the farmers who grew it because of its low cost overhead to grow it.

reminds me of the Family Guy episode where Brian leads that big campaign about it, and yeah he mentions that hemp could have been a contender to replace paper among other things.

[Slow-V6]

Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

its only a drug because the government says it is to line the pockets of the very ones you guys are complaining about when gas prices go up. you can turn a blind eye all you want, but when you complain about big oil companies but continue to support the illegalization of marijuana all youre doing is lining the pockets of the people you are trying to fight.

right now you just need to weigh it on the scales of justice. is keeping marijuana illegal and big wigs rich worth it to keep americas industry down in the dumps, or would you rather let a few non violent offenders out of jail, save money locking them up, give medicine to those that need it and revitalize a dying industry in america.


when you think about it like that the only reason you really want marijuana illegal is because of a few people getting high? its not like mj use will rise, it will stay the same, only thing that would change is that you cant fault anyone for using it after that.

I have not complained about Oil Prices at all.. I complained about the use of our Armed Forces.. If you Legalize MJ and Tax it that will help the economy. But How many contries ,comparable to the USA in living, have MJ legal so you can buy it at a smoke shop or what not and smoke it legally for enjoyment?? My guess would be not to many.. Why is that??

Now lets compare the US industry vrs the World.. You are saying that the US is in the bottom or dumps compared to the rest of the world.. I bet the us is a lot better then that Vrs the world..

[Slow-V6]

Originally Posted by Frosty

Will you start smoking if it was legal? No? Neither would most people(myself included).

I would.. Being high is more fun then being drunk.. Since MJ is natual and not bad for you then why not?? It will be legal right? What would be the purpose of legalizing it if most people wont smoke it??

[LTb1ow]

Originally Posted by Frosty

Will you start smoking if it was legal? No? Neither would most people(myself included).

Semi paradigm shift, once a few generations are accustomed to having it be legal, it will become common nature to partake in.

"A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it."
-Planck

/silly scientific

[NastyEllEssWon]

Originally Posted by LTs1ow

I do not see how abuse levels will not rise once it becomes legal for it to be had.

wanna know a fun fact? alcohol use actually rose during the prohibition era.

By the greatest majority of indicators, the biggest drops in alcohol consumption and alcohol problems actually came before national prohibition went into effect. Those drops continued for about the first two years of Prohibition and then alcohol consumption began to rise. By 1926, most of the problems were worse than they had been before Prohibition went into effect and there were a number of new problems -- such as a drinking epidemic among children -- that had not been there before.

why was this? because since it wasnt government regulated they were actually buying stronger booze at cheaper prices than what the government was selling.

if mj was government regulated they would be able to control the quality of the marijuana sold.

would you be interested in this if the average person was available to buy mid grade marijuana saving the high thc count marijuana for the medicinal patients???

[NastyEllEssWon]

Originally Posted by Slow-V6

I would.. Being high is more fun then being drunk.. Since MJ is natual and not bad for you then why not?? It will be legal right? What would be the purpose of legalizing it if most people wont smoke it??

havent you been reading. were supporting marijuana legalization not only for the people that want to smoke it, but for the ensuing industry capabilities it offers on the hemp side of things. go look up what hemp can be made into. its amazing.

[Slow-V6]

Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

wanna know a fun fact? alcohol use actually rose during the prohibition era.




why was this? because since it wasnt government regulated they were actually buying stronger booze at cheaper prices than what the government was selling.

if mj was government regulated they would be able to control the quality of the marijuana sold.

would you be interested in this if the average person was available to buy mid grade marijuana saving the high thc count marijuana for the medicinal patients???

But you said it was all natual right?? Now you are messing with MJ by adding or subtracting Additives to make it less potent.. How would that be good??

[Squirrel]

Originally Posted by Slow-V6

But How many contries ,comparable to the USA in living, have MJ legal so you can buy it at a smoke shop or what not and smoke it legally for enjoyment?? My guess would be not to many.. Why is that??

it seems that the US is in the more lax side of the countries that are actually relevant to world affairs in this discussion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalit...bis_by_country

[LTb1ow]

Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

havent you been reading. were supporting marijuana legalization not only for the people that want to smoke it, but for the ensuing industry capabilities it offers on the hemp side of things. go look up what hemp can be made into. its amazing.

You are kidding right?

Look at the tobacco industry.. to make the most money, of course MJ companies would want to push their drugs onto people to smoke/become addicted/spend tons of money/die of cancer.

Logically smoke to get cancer, smoke to avoid cancer pain?

full circle of winning for MJ companies.