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09-30-2012, 08:41 PM
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Most Mismatched Engine?
So on a quick glimpse the Camaro I just picked up has 200cc dart iron eagles (not platinums). Apparently it's a 355. I see 1.52/1.6 rockers. Tach is set to redline at 6 grand. Unaware of the cam as of now. Single plane. 1,800 stall. It just all seems so ass backwards for a 355.
Motor will be coming out to be checked out. Are these Dart heads any good? I can't find much info on the older darts.
Might as well try to use them for what they are worth and build a screamer and see how long it lasts?
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09-30-2012, 09:14 PM
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Big heads with single plane, on a 355, but redlines at 6k? Da faq kinda setup is that, its almost if he went of of his way to make a dog of an engine 
Re cam it and shift round 7k
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09-30-2012, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LTb1ow
Big heads with single plane, on a 355, but redlines at 6k? Da faq kinda setup is that, its almost if he went of of his way to make a dog of an engine
Re cam it and shift round 7k |
I know... right lol.
I have a TH350 and a 2,500ish converter. I don't want to sink huge money into this cause it's just a temporary motor til I finish the 383.
I do have a set of 195cc trick flow 23* heads but I am saving them for the 383.
I coincidentally have a set of new lifters and a new XE274H (230/236 .490"/.490") laying around. That should push a 355 to shift around 6,500 RPM. Is it enough cam for that setup or should I cough up another $140 for a different cam? Oh and I have a RPM Air Gap manifold (dual plane for 6,500).
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...its cool to like diesels, cause that and pretending to be country is like, hip nowadays!!
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09-30-2012, 09:39 PM
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Methinks this combo was not intended, rather it was put together to sell the car.
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09-30-2012, 09:44 PM
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Methinks this combo was not intended, rather it was put together to sell the car.
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He had all the paper work for it. Someone very knowledgeable on another forum pointed out engine red line and shift points are two different things. I can sort of correct it if it was slapped together (I truly think he was just a moron), have a cam that would go a little better with those heads, bigger converter and high rpm dual plane.
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...its cool to like diesels, cause that and pretending to be country is like, hip nowadays!!
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10-01-2012, 12:54 PM
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If you building another better motor why not just leave this alone, drive and enjoy the car for the time being?
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10-01-2012, 12:56 PM
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If you building another better motor why not just leave this alone, drive and enjoy the car for the time being?
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Something like this will probably drive like ****. Big runners, single plane, low stall number, maybe low numeric gear ratio?
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10-01-2012, 01:07 PM
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Yeah probably, but if your building a better motor why waste any money on this one, just put it all into the new motor to make it bigger and better. If it runs good enough to have a good time taking it to shows and around town why mess with it when building a new motor?
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01 SS 383 stroker, Magnum F, 9in.
86 Trans-Am 355 t56
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10-01-2012, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by B4C
Yeah probably, but if your building a better motor why waste any money on this one, just put it all into the new motor to make it bigger and better. If it runs good enough to have a good time taking it to shows and around town why mess with it when building a new motor?
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Can't speak for him, but spending a few bucks to make it a more reasonable tide-me-over engine was my thinking.
zraffz- what carb is on it? Based on what you've said so far, I'm guessing a 1050 Dominator. LOL.
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10-01-2012, 01:16 PM
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Especially since we are going into winter. What is your time frame for completion of the 383? I would just leave this thing alone unless you have stuff laying around that won't cost you more than gaskets/rtv/fluids.
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10-01-2012, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by WildBillyT
Can't speak for him, but spending a few bucks to make it a more reasonable tide-me-over engine was my thinking.
zraffz- what carb is on it? Based on what you've said so far, I'm guessing a 1050 Dominator. LOL.
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LOL Sounds like a hell of a setup!
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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
Especially since we are going into winter. What is your time frame for completion of the 383? I would just leave this thing alone unless you have stuff laying around that won't cost you more than gaskets/rtv/fluids.
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This, no point in wasting time/money when your just going to be swapping the motor anyway.
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01 SS 383 stroker, Magnum F, 9in.
86 Trans-Am 355 t56
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10-01-2012, 01:31 PM
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I agree with those guys.
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10-01-2012, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by WildBillyT
Can't speak for him, but spending a few bucks to make it a more reasonable tide-me-over engine was my thinking.
zraffz- what carb is on it? Based on what you've said so far, I'm guessing a 1050 Dominator. LOL.
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750.
And as stated I have all the parts laying around to go rpm air gap dual plane, re-cam, and lifters. I'd just be going out of pocket on gaskets and push rods.
I'm just not sure how 6,500 RPM shifts, dual plane and 200cc runners will go together.
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10-03-2012, 09:15 PM
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The rockers are sometimes different, meaning you can put one size on the intake and another on the exhaust.
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