Commonly used incorrect automotive terms - NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds

BonzoHansen · 01-23-2009, 09:32 AM

Why do 4th gen guys continue to call a tail pan a berger panel? Not sure what Berger Chevy has to do with any of this. Berger did not invent black paint on tail panels.

Knipps · 01-23-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

Why do 4th gen guys continue to call a tail pan a berger panel? Not sure what Berger Chevy has to do with any of this. Berger did not invent black paint on tail panels.

You're really going to try and start that again?

BonzoHansen · 01-23-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Knipps

You're really going to try and start that again?

I consider it educating the Camaro owners who don't know Camaro history.

sweetbmxrider · 01-23-2009, 02:23 PM

ah geez bonzo

JL8Jeff · 01-23-2009, 06:22 PM

Silly kids! Don't even know that a blacked out tailpanel is from the old SS396 cars!

And the factory did not use gloss black, more of a satin black on the tailpanel and rockers I believe. I would just call it a custom tailpanel, and leave Berger out of it. I actually like the CAMARO letters with the inserts myself. I actually have the black tailpanel on my SS396, the Z28 emblem on my 69 Z28 and the CAMARO letters on my 2000 so I've got them all covered.

Your custom tailpanel came out good.

1994lt1 · 01-23-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JL8Jeff

Silly kids! Don't even know that a blacked out tailpanel is from the old SS396 cars!

And the factory did not use gloss black, more of a satin black on the tailpanel and rockers I believe. I would just call it a custom tailpanel, and leave Berger out of it. I actually like the CAMARO letters with the inserts myself. I actually have the black tailpanel on my SS396, the Z28 emblem on my 69 Z28 and the CAMARO letters on my 2000 so I've got them all covered.

Your custom tailpanel came out good.

Yup just a silly kid who has read 4 Camaro books and written 2 school papers on them... But you're right because I dont own a SS 396 I couldnt possibly know right? Well anyway, I installed it today and I must say it looks great. I will get pictures tomorrow.

Knipps · 01-23-2009, 08:29 PM

yes, take his light hearted comment personally. That's the best thing to do.

WildBillyT · 01-25-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 1994lt1

Yup just a silly kid who has read 4 Camaro books and written 2 school papers on them... But you're right because I dont own a SS 396 I couldnt possibly know right? Well anyway, I installed it today and I must say it looks great. I will get pictures tomorrow.

You really don't want to go toe to toe with Jeff on Camaro History LOL. He owns two (maybe 3) of the cars that are in those books. And he's right. "Berger panel" is not accurate to Camaro heritage. Or musclcar heritage for that matter. But you didn't coin the term!

Panel looks good though. You did a good job.

sweetbmxrider · 01-26-2009, 04:53 PM

its like sayin i'm gettin a stall converter. we're wrong and most of us get why. cheese

WildBillyT · 01-26-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider

its like sayin i'm gettin a stall converter. we're wrong and most of us get why. cheese

And yet you still make the mistake.

sweetbmxrider · 01-26-2009, 05:28 PM

its not a mistake. its easier to refer to it as a berger panel then whatever the hell the real name is. blame gmmg! people call ls1's 350's and i don't know why?

BonzoHansen · 01-26-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider

its not a mistake. its easier to refer to it as a berger panel then whatever the hell the real name is. blame gmmg! people call ls1's 350's and i don't know why?

Because a 5.7L was a 350 for, I dunno, 30+ years?

The term is tail panel. You can choose to learn or continue to sound like an idiot.

ta350 · 01-26-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

Because a 5.7L was a 350 for, I dunno, 30+ years?

The term is tail panel. You can choose to learn or continue to sound like an idiot.

Tail Panel is correct... its even in my estimating program with GM part #s lol

sweetbmxrider · 01-26-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

Because a 5.7L was a 350 for, I dunno, 30+ years?

The term is tail panel. You can choose to learn or continue to sound like an idiot.

because the ls1 is, i dono, 345.7 c.i.

and i'm the idiot?

so if we call it a berger panel for 30+ years, that makes us correct?

so be it!

LTb1ow · 01-26-2009, 06:51 PM

Repetition makes it true.

BonzoHansen · 01-26-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider

because the ls1 is, i dono, 345.7 c.i.

and i'm the idiot?

so if we call it a berger panel for 30+ years, that makes us correct?

so be it!

GM marketed it as a 5.7, never as a 346 or whatever. Don't be pissed because your wrong.

sweetbmxrider · 01-26-2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

GM marketed it as a 5.7, never as a 346 or whatever. Don't be pissed because your wrong.

gmmg built '02 camaros into Dick Harrell Edition Supercars exclusively for berger chevrolet. these cars have their tail panel painted a flat black with polished stainless camaro inserts. this is where the term came from. deal with it.

because gm marketed their ls1 in metric displacement makes calling it a 350 correct?

BonzoHansen · 01-26-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider

gmmg built '02 camaros into Dick Harrell Edition Supercars exclusively for berger chevrolet. these cars have their tail panel painted a flat black with polished stainless camaro inserts. this is where the term came from. deal with it.

because gm marketed their ls1 in metric displacement makes calling it a 350 correct?

I did not say calling it a 350 was ok. I explained why it was a common MISTAKE.

sweetbmxrider · 01-26-2009, 07:17 PM

my point still stands with the dick harrell supercars.

BonzoHansen · 01-26-2009, 07:19 PM

Well, if you buy one then you too can have a 'berger panel'. Otherwise you have a black tail panel.

Although that is still illogical. I guess if Reedman puts their dealer plate/sticker on a tail panel then you'd have a Reedman Panel?

LTb1ow · 01-26-2009, 07:19 PM

Camaros have corvette engines!

lol

bad64chevelle · 01-26-2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

Well, if you buy one then you too can have a 'berger panel'. Otherwise you have a black tail panel.

Although that is still illogical. I guess if Reedman puts their dealer plate/sticker on a tail panel then you'd have a Reedman Panel?

**** I have a Lucas Tailgate.

The Camaro had a Patterson Panel.

sweetbmxrider · 01-26-2009, 07:30 PM

yup just like how 1st gen guys make replica yenkos and such i have a replica dick harrell supercar when it comes to tail panels.

BonzoHansen · 01-26-2009, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider

yup just like how 1st gen guys make replica yenkos and such i have a replica dick harrell supercar when it comes to tail panels.

I don't condone cloning....its immoral and against nature...

LTb1ow · 01-26-2009, 07:31 PM

You guys sound like mustang guy arguing over which body kit is cooler.