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Savage_Messiah · 05-16-2007, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bubba428

haha I figured you'd join eventually.....Now just so you realize...your the only other one on this forum who knows ANYTHING about a 3.4...and watch out for j0n...he hates V6s....

I hate v6s too. They all suck.

black34v6 · 05-16-2007, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah

.. and if you're referring to Shawn's cam only record that stood before Lance took that beast to the clash, than that was a 13.53 (then sprayed a 100 shot to a 12.26), but now yes he is completely gutting the car.

black34... now how's about this one... 90 degree > 60 degree.

i was referring to a guy by the name of Keith I think his name was... but that was a while ago -- i dont keep up on the 3.8's cause i really dont care. but it was just an example. sorry if i didnt say it was the fastest I knew.

anyway - ha ha. if the 90 > 60 then why is GM dropping the 90* in favor of a whole new lineup of 60 motors to put in all their cars, called the "high value lineup"?

anyway - everyone can think what they want. my 3.4 will pwn all. lol

bubba428 · 05-16-2007, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96

so we got a cali bro now. I think thats the farthest member we got here. i own a V6 3.8, and love every part of it. we had guys running 12's, ifact one of our members has the fastest n/a 3.8, and he didnt even getto touch the bottom end. the only problem with 3.4's is that they dont produce enough aftermarket, and if there are parts, jsut liek the 3.8's, you have to sell off your first born for parts. And alot of people smack talk about how their V8's run this time and that time for the same amount of money put into their engine and such that we put, but hey that's your thing, you were able to afford a V8, not everyone can, so we have to make do with what we got. I on the other hand have not touched my motor at all, just supension, and thats all i needed. But I bought my camaro for 2500, how many peopel can say they bought an LS1 camaro or firebird for that much, or bought a LT1 that wasent beaten to ****, or needed alot of replacement parts for that much. Hugh bought his 3.4 for 800 bucks on a minimum wage budget, so if anyhting, you guys should applaude him for buying an F-body. He could of bought any kind of car out there, but he had his mind set on a camaro, adn i give kudo's to him, and so now, he has an intrest on building up on whathe's got. He doesnt havea high paying job, nor did his mommy or daddy help him get it, and the same for me, so if you guys were ever in our shoes, and seen y we bought V6's, youd stop busting on us. Cause in the end we all have one thing in common, We love our american car, and we love our f-body, weither it be a 3rd gen 4 cylinder, or an LS1 SOM WS6 ( had to drop in kelseys car, cause it's sex on black ZO6 rims lol) we are all fellow F-body lovers.

Hugh=bubba's real name....anyway yea I'm doing this on the leftovers of a minimum wage job, being unemployed really sucks. yes I baught the car for 800, I could have baught a couple ricers for half that. The original idea for the car was to swap in a built LS2 and M6 but that was outta reach. Not to long later Blacdout96 showed me camarov6.com and Black34v6's project. Now speaking purely as to vs STOCK numbers, my car will have higher power out put than any stock thirdgen and very close to LT1s.

Now on a second note. I put this post up to record the progress of the build and for anyone who is interested to ask questions. NOT to hear BS from certain V8 guys who have the constant need to reasure them selves of there manhood.

PS: exuse the grammar/spelling...its 5:37am

Savage_Messiah · 05-16-2007, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by black34v6

i was referring to a guy by the name of Keith I think his name was... but that was a while ago -- i dont keep up on the 3.8's cause i really dont care. but it was just an example. sorry if i didnt say it was the fastest I knew.

anyway - ha ha. if the 90 > 60 then why is GM dropping the 90* in favor of a whole new lineup of 60 motors to put in all their cars, called the "high value lineup"?

anyway - everyone can think what they want. my 3.4 will pwn all. lol

Keith? Seppo? Damn, that was a LONG time ago that he was the fastest (o around there)

Tru2Chevy · 05-16-2007, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bubba428

Now speaking purely as to vs STOCK numbers, my car will have higher power out put than any stock thirdgen and very close to LT1s.

I'm not knocking your build, because I'm all for doing the best you can with what you have - but are you planning on beating these numbers (HP: 245@4400 TQ: 345@3200) with only a cam difference between you and black34v6?

- Justin

Tru2Chevy · 05-16-2007, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah

Keith? Seppo? Damn, that was a LONG time ago that he was the fastest (o around there)

Yea, I think Craig took down Seppo's time about 2 years ago. Too lazy to search for the exact time.....

- Justin

Savage_Messiah · 05-16-2007, 07:58 AM

Didn't Ben (RallyRed98 ) come between there somewhere?

Tru2Chevy · 05-16-2007, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah

Didn't Ben (RallyRed98 ) come between there somewhere?

I think he ended up beating Keith's time too, but I'm pretty sure that Craig broke Keith's record to become the fastest SI 3.8 (that we know of).

- Justin

bubba428 · 05-16-2007, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy

I'm not knocking your build, because I'm all for doing the best you can with what you have - but are you planning on beating these numbers (HP: 245@4400 TQ: 345@3200) with only a cam difference between you and black34v6?

- Justin

theres a few other differences...like the fact that hes on a stock tune...and the engine ain't running very well.

Tru2Chevy · 05-16-2007, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bubba428

theres a few other differences...like the fact that hes on a stock tune...and the engine ain't running very well.

Well, good luck to ya. I just really don't see you putting down that much power (torque especially) with an N/A 3.4. I hope you prove me wrong though

- Justin

bubba428 · 05-16-2007, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy

Well, good luck to ya. I just really don't see you putting down that much power (torque especially) with an N/A 3.4. I hope you prove me wrong though

- Justin

well the cam I got is rated for a f'n TON of low end...its primary uses are 4WD off road and towing. lotta torque but the top end is 5500 to its got some decent top too

j0n · 05-16-2007, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy

Well, good luck to ya. I just really don't see you putting down that much power (torque especially) with an N/A 3.4. I hope you prove me wrong though

- Justin

don't worry it'll never happen

bubba428 · 05-16-2007, 08:44 AM

What F-body do drive again....I mean currently as in if you just go out side and get in something

Mike · 05-16-2007, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bubba428

What F-body do drive again....I mean currently as in if you just go out side and get in something

wait, so by that comment you can go get in yours and drive it?

bubba428 · 05-16-2007, 08:59 AM

down hill......thats not the point....i didn't start this tread to have to f'n arrgue with you jackazzes about what i'm doing

Mike · 05-16-2007, 09:06 AM

you asked him what he can get in, your cars further from running than his

bubba428 · 05-16-2007, 09:12 AM

.....not really....but your still pushing a mute point......you want to knock my project start your own god damn thread

V · 05-16-2007, 09:14 AM

and we all can't forget the single turbo(off only one bank)3.1 3rd gen that ran 12s... never saw the slip but if it was said on the internet it must be true.

Savage_Messiah · 05-16-2007, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bubba428

well the cam I got is rated for a f'n TON of low end...its primary uses are 4WD off road and towing. lotta torque but the top end is 5500 to its got some decent top too

what's a ton of low end in 3.4 land?

bubba428 · 05-16-2007, 09:26 AM

well I can put a number to it until its done but i'm hopping it'll see 260-290rwtrq which is about 300-340ft/lb at the flywheel...doubt it but its a goal

trashman01 · 05-16-2007, 11:30 AM

bubba i kno what u feel man, happened to me up here all the time, ppl would flame me cuz i had a 305 tbi turd-gen. i had some kid saying he would put for lenghts on me in his 93 z28. well when we did finally race he had me by one car length. i was figuring either he cant drive or his car is ****ed up so we swapped cars and sure as ****, his car beat my car by one length. but that aint the point, let them flame, when it comes time, either u will have it or u wont. right now, im fixing on destroying a 05 chevy 1500 with the 5.3L and a blowmaster 50 series

black34v6 · 05-16-2007, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy

I'm not knocking your build, because I'm all for doing the best you can with what you have - but are you planning on beating these numbers (HP: 245@4400 TQ: 345@3200) with only a cam difference between you and black34v6?

- Justin

er...where'd you get those #'s?

and yes, bubba's right - my ECM (stock GM tune) hates the jump in compression (9:1 -> 9.5:1) and the fact that i have a larger than stock cam.

fyi - there are two reported 400 hp 2.8L N/A motors currently existing in the world, they are both in boats however. but the point is that it can be done N/A -- just how you build it. definitely would like to know how they built those motors lol. :-p

edit: before the cam, but after the topend swap i did (before the 184rwhp/212rwtq...should have dyno'd then too)... i have to date held off a stock 1996 Z28 Convertible. I was showing off for him cause he was interested in what my car could do - cause it sounds amazing "for a v6" as he put it... i did a clutch drop at a stoplight - 5k and floored it (i have a T5..so its respectable, 3.4L cars + autos = t3h suck, imo) and i did a nice little burnout and launches and took off and powershifted (hammered) from 1-4th gear. i pulled around the corner and into a parking lot and when he finally caught up and stopped he was like "omfg - what did you do to that thing???" i replied with "what do you mean?" to which he said "I was flooring my car and I couldnt catch up to you... once you took off i did the same and i started gaining on you but i got like a few car lengths and then suddenly i couldnt close the gap anymore...what have you done to this beast??"

true story - stock 1996 Z28 Convertible - Auto. with between 170rwhp and 184rwhp and between 207 and 212rwtq.

anyhow -- i've digressed. wheres the pics bubba?

bubba428 · 05-16-2007, 12:24 PM

Megasqurit FTW.....If that SOB ever sends it

Tru2Chevy · 05-16-2007, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by black34v6

er...where'd you get those #'s?

Bubba said he'd be putting out more power than any stock third gen. Those numbers are what an L98 (TPI 350) third gen was rated at.

- Justin

Savage_Messiah · 05-16-2007, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by black34v6

i was referring to a guy by the name of Keith I think his name was... but that was a while ago -- i dont keep up on the 3.8's cause i really dont care. but it was just an example. sorry if i didnt say it was the fastest I knew.

anyway - ha ha. if the 90 > 60 then why is GM dropping the 90* in favor of a whole new lineup of 60 motors to put in all their cars, called the "high value lineup"?

anyway - everyone can think what they want. my 3.4 will pwn all. lol

Oh yeah, you guys have so many cars in the 9s that I lost count... how many are there again?