Young drivers kill each other a lot....

[LTb1ow]

So much that they now are getting decals to put on liscense plates.

Was reading the article in the paper today about it, some scary statistics.

Anyways, I was just wondering if anyone knew more about the program? I have a younger sibling and was curious about how the state will determine which car or cars the sticker(s) will need to be on?

[Mike]

other countries do this, you know some of the hot air baloon looking stickers that ricers put on their cars? the different colors symbolize driver experience levels, and it lets other people on the road know who is around them.......

its also like the "rookie stripe" in nascar and some other racing, lets people know that they are coming up on a driver that maybe is in over his head.

i didnt read the article so i dont know the states plan, but i dont think any plan that can warn drivers and potentially lower our insane insurance rates is a bad idea.

[LTb1ow]

Never said it was a bad idea, just wondering how the state will determine which cars need to have a sticker. My parents have 5 cars including mine on the driveway, will they all need stickers even if my car is in my name? I am just assuming they will pull the same game the insurance company does, if the car is there it can be assumed anyone can drive it.

Just curious.

[Mike]

your probably right, any car on the policy that the young driver might need it...

[LTb1ow]

Hmmn, I guess I will have to wait and see what happens.


I am really just afraid that if made to have the sticker on my car, it will get me more un wanted attention than I already have.

[NJ Torque]

...your how old?

[NJ Torque]

New drivers in Japan



Elderly drivers in Japan

[LTb1ow]

21, why?

[Mike]

doesn't matter, in our stupid ass state, they consider everyone in the household as on the policy, whether they drive the car or not. even if he got his own insurance he would have to notify them of driving aged siblings in the house.

i am eligible for njm, but since my father and sister have been in accidents in the last three years, they wont give me a policy until i move out......its pretty much the same thing as what this sticker thing would mean

[Mike]

Originally Posted by NJ Torque

New drivers in Japan



Elderly drivers in Japan

that is precisely what i was referring to, thanks

[LTb1ow]

I am just not liking the thought of having to label my car as a "young driver". Already paranoid as hell when I drive my blue bomb. Arg.

[Mike]

that's true.....maybe something as simple as a license plate frame or body colored vinyl to cover it up once it passes inspection?

[KirkEvil]

little pink hearts would look cute on your LT1

[LTb1ow]

Same with your catfish fool....

And yea, I was thinking that since my younger sibling and or my family for that matter refuses to drive my car.... lol

[Mike]

if you think about it, it probably wouldn't increase issues with the police, considering the thousands of cars that would need it. parents, siblings, and anyone in the household will have it just because of the insurance policy, and after a few weeks of pulling over 40-50 year old men because of a sticker saying they are 17 and the police will just give up on it......

[LTb1ow]

Yea, that is what kinda makes me think the state would have thought of a solution to that, but then again its the state and emotional mothers, sooo I doubt it.

[ar0ck]

They just updated the drivers licenses in New Jersey. From what I gathered from my students, is permit at 16 still, but you can't drive at night and that also carries over into the 17yr old GDL you have to be driving with another licensed driver at night.

Also they are updating the motorcycle licenses sometime this year to a class A & B

[Mike]

stupid, not letting people drive with their parents at night on their permits, will create a lot of people that cant properly drive at night......

[sweetbmxrider]

i think it will be a bumper sticker with the how is my driving thing goin on. it will have a code and phone number and you can report the car, only if you are using hands free dialing or pull over

its a good idea but has its draw backs like you guys said. we will see how it goes. glad its not my car

the whole insurance policy household **** is what makes me pay for my policy even though i can't drive. let the law handle the mishaps, Mr. Insurance Man

edit: you currently can't drive at night with a GDL. also, only one other passenger that does not live in your household. the licensed driver must have 3 years of driving experience for you to drive with them on a permit.

[BonzoHansen]

Graduated licenses are good, now they need to enforce them. Last I read it's a secondary offense so cops can't pull a group of kids over simply because there is a kid driving when he is not supposed to be (late night, car full of kids, etc).

Every time I've looked at per mile crash stats, it's like this:



I don't have actual stats handy right now, so I paraphrased what I have read.

that is why policies skyrocket when driving aged kids are around. The numbers are staggering. I had fun with the wording, but the graph is on the money.

[CHRIS67]

^^^^^

[Mike]

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider

i think it will be a bumper sticker with the how is my driving thing goin on. it will have a code and phone number and you can report the car, only if you are using hands free dialing or pull over

its a good idea but has its draw backs like you guys said. we will see how it goes. glad its not my car

the whole insurance policy household **** is what makes me pay for my policy even though i can't drive. let the law handle the mishaps, Mr. Insurance Man

edit: you currently can't drive at night with a GDL. also, only one other passenger that does not live in your household. the licensed driver must have 3 years of driving experience for you to drive with them on a permit.

woooooooot ill use my onstar phone to report everyone

[Dilley]

yeah i never understood that whole if there is someone in the household that has a license they have to be on the insurance in which case i think is crap because i have never driven my dads truck and never will be allowed ever so why should i have to pay insurance on that vehicle for me

[maroman88]

i heard they would use a velco type decal that has to be placed on each car WHEN its driven by the GDL driver.

also new to the GDL i think they're moving the times slightly, from midnite to 1130pm or sumthin retarted

[BurninrubberGT]

they are changing a lot for 16/17 yr olds, saw it on facebook...somethings make sense, but some stuff is just overkill...what they should do is require everyone to take the road course once every 2 years to get all the older idiots off the road

thank god im 18

here is the list of things i found-

The proposed amendments included in this bill, can be found below...


· Require that the parent or guardian of a person under the age of 18 receive an informational brochure which clearly sets forth the special rules that apply to a holder of an examination permit or a provisional license.

· Require the chief administrator to issue an orange hang tag/sticker to be displayed when a vehicle is being driven by the holder of a provisional license.

· Require that an applicant for a provisional license wait one year after obtaining a learner’s permit before being issued a provisional license.

· Change the threshold for mandatory license suspension from two or more motor vehicle offenses to any motor vehicle offense.

· Take away the right to plea bargaining in court when issued a ticket that would give a teen driver 1 infraction point on their license.

· Increase the mandatory license suspension from three months to five months.