Ricers in the WB talking smack...

[Trans Aminal]

Hey guys

Let me start out by saying I work in the "WB", aka the Washington Borough in NJ. I don't know how many of you guys know where this is or have been there, but this place is known for having more "Tyte cars and Type R's" per square mile than just about anywhere else in the world. In other words, its a town full of Honda kids that think they are fast.

So I show up to check my schedule, and I'm not surprised to see a bunch of Honda kids standing out front. I walk over because my buddy was talking to one of them, and the **** talking starts immediately. "Oh look here's the kid with the Trans Am, ect". I'm used to it so I just usually laugh and mumble to myself how much I hate these kids. Anyhow, the one kid starts taking **** about how my car "isn't s*** against a motor swapped Honda", so I pretty much told him Hondas suck - they are ugly, sound like ****, and their motors are gutless. He immediately takes this as a challenge to race, and starts calling all his gay Honda friends to come down, and of course they are chilling at the local Dunkin Donuts and Quick Check (where else ), so they show up immediately.

He claims they have a stock bodied, stock interior Honda Civic hatch (bubble as they call them) with a K20 "type r" that will "destroy" my car by buslenghts, my mods are in sig. Apparently it belonged to one of their friends that died, so now "its everyones car". He claims it has 268WHP and "beat a Fararri f50 (). Then this other Honda fag also showed up with a "B16 turbo" who claims he will destroy me. At this point I pretty much say "whatever I don't give a f***", because I'm tired of listening to B16 this and K20 that, I hate Hondas.

My friend rolls his eyes and says "lets see what would happen if the T/A was as modded as your Civic or had anything close to as much money in it, such as H/C package or Procharger", and these kids STILL claim this K20 Civic would lay waste to it. I asked them in plain english if they thought a H/C 500WHP F-body with a 4K stall and a 4L80 with a 12 bolt could beat this hatch. Their exact words "it would need a rocket strapped to it"

My question is how many of you guys have raced a Honda with a "K20" or "K20r" swapped into it?? Any idea what the outcome would be?? I mean obviously he has a huge weight advantage over me (~1000lbs), but do those motors run as well as their numbers suggest?? Seems to me I've read all too many hyped-up kill stories where some boosted H22 or K series in a hatch lays down money and still gets their ass kicked by a bolt on LS1, even though the stats suggest otherwise.

And finally, if any of you guys are in the area, give me a hollar, especially if you got some good mods. These kids could use a nice reality check, nothing that can't be settled over at Island

[Savage_Messiah]

run the little punks

[Mike]

just like any motor, they could be running anywhere from stock times to single digits.... you seem pretty close minded about these cars so i wouldnt be surprised if one of them was able to walk you.......

[Mike]

btw you have most likely a high 12 second car, which isnt tooo hard in a turbo or properly built na honda

[unstable bob gable]

Where abouts is the "W B" located?

[Mike]

wb

roadrunner racing bugsbunny for pinks

[Jersey_TA]

Hmmm interesting...... Time to bust out the BBOD I think. He's been hungry lately

[WayFast84]

Originally Posted by Jersey_TA

Hmmm interesting...... Time to bust out the BBOD I think. He's been hungry lately

do it

[unstable bob gable]

Originally Posted by cbrrmike

wb

roadrunner racing bugsbunny for pinks

Don't quit yer day job, 5-Oh.

[Trans Aminal]

Originally Posted by cbrrmike

just like any motor, they could be running anywhere from stock times to single digits.... you seem pretty close minded about these cars so i wouldnt be surprised if one of them was able to walk you.......

Close minded?? No. I know what the engines are capable of, as stated, this car is "supposed" to be making 268WHP.

There is a big difference between not liking them and being "close minded", I know what "they can do", yet my personal opinion is that they are pieces of **** in general.

[Trans Aminal]

Originally Posted by unstable bob gable

Where abouts is the "W B" located?

Sorry I didn't specify...

"WB" is the "Washington Borough", North Jersey, Warren County

[unstable bob gable]

Originally Posted by Trans Aminal

Sorry I didn't specify...

"WB" is the "Washington Borough", North Jersey, Warren County

Like off of Rt 31...on the way to Hot Dog Johnny's in Buttzville?

[BonzoHansen]

Originally Posted by cbrrmike

wb

roadrunner racing bugsbunny for pinks

Beep-beep

[Sweet99Z]

Race them. unless one of those cars is seriously stripped down, well built, and has wrinkle wall slicks on the front, I would not worry about it. I cant even count how many times I have been into a pack of ricers talking **** and when it comes down to it, they all have slow cars and cant drive. Most likely your dealing with a couple of 14 second cars that "feel Fast" compared to mommy's mini van. The thing is however, even if one of those cars is fast, it is still just a pos honda.

[bubba428]

hmmm island.....I'll let you know when my "little" project is running and I'll make the damn ricers cry...

[Blackbirdws6]

These guys obviously think their swap motor imports are untouchable. More times than not, there are tons of claims backed up by absolutely nothing. Occasionally you will run into a truly impressive import that will perform but its still few and far between in my opinion.

It gets worse in the honda crowd because they seem to all fuel their own made up hp numbers and stories. For all you know, the guy claiming 268whp could have just beaten a car that was supposedly making 250whp (as quoted by that owner) but in fact...neither is making anything withing 50hp of that number. This is just for "an instance" but you see where I'm going with it. I would run one of their cars from a stop and a roll if you want. You do not have a slow by any means so see how it stacks up.

Back when I was only with a filter/exhaust this kid with a modded crx "shifting at 10k" would talk all kinds of crap and spout its times and what not. When we finally lined up, I left him 6 cars back to 110...suffice to say he had nothing to say and his buddy told me he was giving it all it had. Then again I ran into some well built and non-riced out hondas on rt 1 in my dads 00 vette. We never got a clean run but it would have been neck and neck if not with him pulling a bit on that car.

Good luck with laying the smack down.

-Brian

[slugger27nj]

How many stickers are on this guy's car? If he has more than 4, I'd be concerned.

[trashman01]

its funnier when they talk **** bout a truck then proceed to loose to said truck.

[Trans Aminal]

Originally Posted by unstable bob gable

Like off of Rt 31...on the way to Hot Dog Johnny's in Buttzville?

You got it

[98tadriver]

Originally Posted by cbrrmike

btw you have most likely a high 12 second car, which isnt tooo hard in a turbo or properly built na honda

i ran high 12s with just a lid and a catback, and mid 12s with his mods on street tires. i think he will do fine, as long as they dont have 2 big bottles of naaawwwzzz hooked up to their cars

[Trans Aminal]

Originally Posted by Sweet99Z

Race them. unless one of those cars is seriously stripped down, well built, and has wrinkle wall slicks on the front, I would not worry about it. I cant even count how many times I have been into a pack of ricers talking **** and when it comes down to it, they all have slow cars and cant drive. Most likely your dealing with a couple of 14 second cars that "feel Fast" compared to mommy's mini van. The thing is however, even if one of those cars is fast, it is still just a pos honda.

Thats exactly how I see it. There is no way a 2400lb FWD car is going to be able to put down 268WHP to the road, its just not happening. Traction is not on their side.

The one kid is actually one of my co-workers (he's a moron btw, has a 92 hatch with swap, ran a 17.9 at best ) and he claims the said "k20 type r" in the non-gutted hatch ran an 11.3 on street tires. I immediately called , as did my friend who also works there, there is no way thats happening.

[Trans Aminal]

Originally Posted by bubba428

hmmm island.....I'll let you know when my "little" project is running and I'll make the damn ricers cry...

Sounds good, let me know

[Trans Aminal]

Originally Posted by cbrrmike

btw you have most likely a high 12 second car, which isnt tooo hard in a turbo or properly built na honda

Really...is that why I see 90% of the motor swapped Hondas running 14's??

And the few that actually do make it into the low 13's, high 12's usually have between $10,000 and $20,000 invested in the motor alone.

I also think its absolutely pathetic that every Honda short of the S2K and NSX needs and engine swap to be fast. Thats just plain embarassing, IMO.

I hope run better than high 12's, bone stock the car runs low 13's. My major mods are the Z06 (LS6) intake, 4.10 gears, and Long Tube headers with true dual exhaust with an H pipe, 3" stepped down to 2.5" over the axle with straight through, zero restriction Magnaflow mufflers. I'll be getting it tuned as soon as I have a chance as well. I'm hoping for somewhere around 12.7 when all is said and done.

[unstable bob gable]

Originally Posted by unstable bob gable

Like off of Rt 31...on the way to Hot Dog Johnny's in Buttzville?

Originally Posted by Trans Aminal

You got it

Very good. I'll tell ya what...I'm due for a trip to H D J's in the near future. I'll give you a holla, and I'll roll up to the W B in my 73 AMX. And I'll hit those Ricers with a 'lil bet...I'll whip out a G note, and my buddy Louie VilleSlugger. If a ricer can beat me, he gets the G note. But if I win, me and Mr Slugger do a 'lil SMASH! POW! BAM! on the lozer ricer mobile. Sound like fun?

[unstable bob gable]

Originally Posted by Trans Aminal

Close minded?? No. I know what the engines are capable of, as stated, this car is "supposed" to be making 268WHP.

There is a big difference between not liking them and being "close minded", I know what "they can do", yet my personal opinion is that they are pieces of **** in general.

It's pretty simple. Some things just plain SUCK! Like having yer beer go flat, hitting some big azz potholes and bending yer rims, getting crap on yer hand when ya wipe yerself, and RICERS!