Profiling the Muslims do you agree Y/N

[Jersey_TA]

I've been to almost every country in Europe and I've felt completely safe everywhere we went. The only places I have not felt safe is the 4 middle eastern coutries that I have been to. I am the farthest thing from being racist, just voicing my experiences. We get security briefings and intel about every country we fly into before and after we are there and let me tell you, they don't care what race you are. If you are american you're in danger of something happening to you.

I don't care what race you are, if you look suspicious to someone in security you're getting searched. Plain and simple. I'm not saying profiling is right or wrong. They both have pros and cons depending on who you talk to.

Just try to think of what this world would be like if the U.S. stayed out of everyone's affairs and let them fend for themselves like some countries are doing today. I personally believe the government needs to start trying to fix the problems this country has before it goes off trying to fix another country's.

We are at war in Iraq and against terrorism. Try to keep that in mind. I was deployed to Spain for an exercise for september 11th and was woken up in the middle of the day to be told that my country that I love and respect was under attack by cowards that took thousands of innocent lives....and for what? because they hated us? Because some coward that hides in a cave tells them to? I am never going to forget what those terrorists did to our nation that day.

[johnjzjz]

Originally Posted by Jersey_TA

I've been to almost every country in Europe and I've felt completely safe everywhere we went. The only places I have not felt safe is the 4 middle eastern coutures that I have been to. I am the farthest thing from being racist, just voicing my experiences. We get security briefings and Intel about every country we fly into before and after we are there and let me tell you, they don't care what race you are. If you are American you're in danger of something happening to you.

I don't care what race you are, if you look suspicious to someone in security you're getting searched. Plain and simple. I'm not saying profiling is right or wrong. They both have pros and cons depending on who you talk to.

Just try to think of what this world would be like if the U.S. stayed out of everyone's affairs and let them fend for themselves like some countries are doing today. I personally believe the government needs to start trying to fix the problems this country has before it goes off trying to fix another country's.

We are at war in Iraq and against terrorism. Try to keep that in mind. I was deployed to Spain for an exercise for September Th and was woken up in the middle of the day to be told that my country that I love and respect was under attack by cowards that took thousands of innocent lives....and for what? because they hated us? Because some coward that hides in a cave tells them to? I am never going to forget what those terrorists did to our nation that day.

very well said -- First hand knowledge is and always will be the key too truth -- ( not what someone told someone ) -- that is not the same personal experience as being their and doing it -- Seeing is believing -- jz

[1_Hot_SOM_WS6]

Originally Posted by johnjzjz

very well said -- First hand knowledge is and always will be the key too truth -- ( not what someone told someone ) -- that is not the same personal experience as being their and doing it -- Seeing is believing -- jz

Yeah, I agree. Very well stated Rob.

[Knipps]

I was in Spain about to board an overnight train in the summer of 05 when we heard about the subway attacks in London..

that was discomforting but i could only imagine how much worse it would have been if i was in the middle east

[Ian]

Originally Posted by 1972LT1

Radical Muslims suicide bomb, radical Christians bomb abortion clinics....Murder is wrong in every religion unless it's in the name of god

so if I believe god wants me to bomb a preschool, thats okay?

I'm a little confused because murder is never okay.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Ian

so if I believe god wants me to bomb a preschool, thats okay?

I'm a little confused because murder is never okay.

He's being sarcastic. He's saying that in every religion murder is wrong yet somehow it's ok if the murder is comitted in the name of God.

[qwikz28]

Originally Posted by Frosty

He's being sarcastic. He's saying that in every religion murder is wrong yet somehow it's ok if the murder is comitted in the name of God.

did you know, in Christianity, somebody actually made guidelines on how to wage a "holy war?" i'm not sure i buy it but i think its pretty damn interesting. (i think it was thomas aquinas now that i think of it actually)

edit: i was right, it was thomas aquinas: http://ethics.sandiego.edu/Books/Tex...s/JustWar.html

[Frosty]

Another wacky bastid. lol

[johnjzjz]

Originally Posted by qwikz28

did you know, in Christianity, somebody actually made guidelines on how to wage a "holy war?" i'm not sure i buy it but i think its pretty damn interesting. (i think it was thomas aquinas now that i think of it actually)

edit: i was right, it was thomas aquinas: http://ethics.sandiego.edu/Books/Tex...s/JustWar.html

And that was happening at a time when the then Italians were throwing anyone how might have been Christian to the Lions ( Friday night at the arena )=== and now the pope lives their wow -- go figure -- jz

[Ian]

Originally Posted by Frosty

He's being sarcastic. He's saying that in every religion murder is wrong yet somehow it's ok if the murder is comitted in the name of God.

ah okay. I was hoping that was the case

[jola]

Profiling to an extent is ok. Arabs have been the most active terrorists as of late and they use public transportation as their means of destruction? Well then, ok, maybe keep an eye out for it at train stations, airports, blah blah. To sacrifice American ideals for safety, however, is ill-advised. I think it would be wise to keep in mind the fear of government that many, if not all, of our founding fathers had in mind when establishing this country. Giving up freedom for safety is a risky proposition. Those of you who encourage such actions have more faith in government then I do.

[Frosty]

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

So true, funny how a 231yr old quote can ring true in todays day and age.

[Ian]

ben franklin was a man wise beyond his years.

[Knipps]

yep.

Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to prosper.