Profiling the Muslims do you agree Y/N

[Knipps]

so this country was founded on the day of the boston tea party...
that's not what i learnt in history

[Rob WS6]

If I can get charged more for my car insurance because "statistically" people with lower credit scores are "worse" drivers, then "statistically" Muslims should be singled out because 99% of hijacked planes are done my Muslim extremists.

**** that, and eye for an eye. Dont like it? Go back to your country. We dont care, trust me.

[Teds89IROC]

you have just of an equal chance of getting checked as jake does, thanks to random security checks; just as j0n has been checked the numerous times that he has.

The whole point isnt that every muslim or arab person is a terrorist, the point is that there is a trend of terrorism linked to them ,just like majority of the crime is commited by blacks and majority of the jails are filled with blacks..its just how the numbers are, so we take precaution to the most obivous. No **** anyone is just as capable of it, but being that we can't regulate EVERYTHING we try and regulate what is known.

[Ian]

Originally Posted by Chevelle 454

so this country was founded on the day of the boston tea party...
that's not what i learnt in history

turning point = founding moment. you didnt think this country was magically made with the declaration did you?

and yes, while most of hte people that hijack planes are muslim, you have to look deeper than that to find all of the problem starters though.

do not get me wrong, I am 110% for the secrutiy of this country, but there are certain things that just arent right. profiling is one of them. if you're gonna profile, why not just screen everyone. you'd be suprised at what you might find.

[Ian]

Originally Posted by Teds89IROC

you have just of an equal chance of getting checked as jake does, thanks to random security checks; just as j0n has been checked the numerous times that he has.

The whole point isnt that every muslim or arab person is a terrorist, the point is that there is a trend of terrorism linked to them ,just like majority of the crime is commited by blacks and majority of the jails are filled with blacks..its just how the numbers are, so we take precaution to the most obivous. No **** anyone is just as capable of it, but being that we can't regulate EVERYTHING we try and regulate what is known.

blue collar! just the way I like it. you think for a second a CEO of a huge corporation is gonna get charged as easily as a poor man stealing a TV? think again. the crime that actually hurts me (lower class, thank you very little) is the pricks up top stealing from corporate funds and making my life a living hell. dont try telling me that most of the crime is commited by black people, thats pure ********. the **** that makes my life harder to live is commited by white people and they are all over paid and under worked. I'd like to see them live my life for half a year and not kill themselves.

I'm sorry, but to make such a racist staement like that, you really need to get your head checked!

[Teds89IROC]

Among men, blacks (28.5%) are about six times more likely than whites (4.4%)
to be admitted to prison during their life. Among women, 3.6% of blacks and
0.5% of whites will enter prison at least once. (U.S. Department of Justice)
Based on current rates of incarceration, an estimated 7.9% of black males
compared to 0.7% of white males will enter State of Federal prison by the
time they are age 20 and 21.4% of black males versus 1.4% of white males will
be incarcerated by age 30. (U.S. Department of Justice)
Some have noted that more black men are in prison in America than are in
college. (The Black and White of Justice, Freedom Magazine, Volume 128 )

[Ian]

and you dont think that has anything to do with a corrupt justice system?

*edit* you're stupid if you believe the justice system is even halfway close to perfect.

[Teds89IROC]

No I don't think it's perfect, but not being perfect means it can be as equally as imperfect and wrong towards any case, any judgement, made in the system. But I guess that's not true and our country is just racist and stupid

[Ian]

for the most part, you're right. Our country is stupid. and I agree with you. if any case can be right, i t can just as easily be wrong. which brings me back to my original point....if arabs have to get searched "randomly" so should everyone else. and I mean everyone! profiling is a waste of time, being thorough, no matter what the cost, is worth much more.

[johnjzjz]

Greed: is the number one reason most crime in the USA is committed ( white brown black yellow what ever ) -- the ones doing could care less for your life or mine -- given a chance they would take it financially or literally -- quote : *edit* you're stupid if you believe the justice system is even halfway close to perfect. --- YOU ARE RIGHT WHEN A JUDGE LETS A CHILD MOLESTER OFF WITH 30 DAYS : but how about the one who signed the search warrant with light on details : --- you are forgetting a very real point they in the Muslin religion are preaching death to all who are not Muslim : HELLO HELLO HELLO : are you getting that : in their own words death to all the infidels ( ALL ) : not some like the communist news network would have you think ( CNN ) -- jz

[qwikz28]

i think the reason more blacks are arrested then whites is because black people tend to fall into lower class society and also the same reason this was brought up, racial profiling.

ian- i personally think the whole screening process in itself is bullcrap. you have completely underqualified people searching people who seriously outsmart them. regardless of what kind of checks they have at the airport, i guarantee those reject security guards will get outsmarted by a terrorist. if anyone tries hard enough, they can be creative enough to get around it. just like that guy on the news not too long ago that brought the weapon on the plane just to prove he can. that guy wasnt crazy, he helped us if anything.

i understand also that screening arabs only will create a loophole for others to try something stupid. islam as a whole, has a lot of money and they either threaten or pay off alot of people to join them. and that doesnt only happen in egypt like i'm referring to, i've heard of it happening in Newark from personal account. this would be interesting if they could convince someone of a different race to do their stupid crap for them.

[12secondv6]

Because it has not been said yet..... Derka Derka mohammed jee-had!

I have no problem w/ profiling..... I'm a cracker ass cracker limey bastard... I have no shame in it

[BonzoHansen]

Originally Posted by Teds89IROC

Among men, blacks (28.5%) are about six times more likely than whites (4.4%)
to be admitted to prison during their life. Among women, 3.6% of blacks and
0.5% of whites will enter prison at least once. (U.S. Department of Justice)
Based on current rates of incarceration, an estimated 7.9% of black males
compared to 0.7% of white males will enter State of Federal prison by the
time they are age 20 and 21.4% of black males versus 1.4% of white males will
be incarcerated by age 30. (U.S. Department of Justice)
Some have noted that more black men are in prison in America than are in
college. (The Black and White of Justice, Freedom Magazine, Volume 128 )

Many might say these stats proves inequality exists. They don't prove who commits crime, they prove who gets convicted. Bascially what Ian said. The root issue is economics, not race. If a proportionate number of minorities are poor, that is a differnent problem that needs to be addressed.

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[r0nin89]

It difficult situation to judge. It holds the same effect as the Japanese in WW2, and Russians during the cold war. He shouldnt be complaining though its not like hes not the only group that its done to (not specifically in airports though). I mean a black guy walks into a store and hes watched more than a white guy. Its human instinct to reflect and pass general judgment based on prior events. In the case of blacks its robberies/shootings in the news despite the fact that it doesnt apply to all blacks many people still view all of them that way. The same with Muslims. When your people are killings out soldiers, 1/2 are supporting a dictator, flying planes into buildings then rejoicing about it I now pass judgment on all of you because this is what your majority makes us beleive you are. If it were not for the fact that I know theres an air marshall on every plane with a gun I still wouldnt fly...

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by r0nin89

It difficult situation to judge. It holds the same effect as the Japanese in WW2, and Russians during the cold war. He shouldnt be complaining though its not like hes not the only group that its done to (not specifically in airports though). I mean a black guy walks into a store and hes watched more than a white guy. Its human instinct to reflect and pass general judgment based on prior events. In the case of blacks its robberies/shootings in the news despite the fact that it doesnt apply to all blacks many people still view all of them that way. The same with Muslims. When your people are killings out soldiers, 1/2 are supporting a dictator, flying planes into buildings then rejoicing about it I now pass judgment on all of you because this is what your majority makes us beleive you are. If it were not for the fact that I know theres an air marshall on every plane with a gun I still wouldnt fly...

i wont flame you for being a moron(cuz i dont wanna talk to timmy on aim again someone gets butt hurt), but instead ill just say that WHITE people as a race killed more people then you'll be able to comprehend.

[BonzoHansen]

Originally Posted by Tsar

i wont flame you for being a moron(cuz i dont wanna talk to timmy on aim again someone gets butt hurt), but instead ill just say that WHITE people as a race killed more people then you'll be able to comprehend.

Many in the name of God.

[Ian]

also, that figure of 1/2 the muslims in the world flying planes into buildings is not accurate at all. a majority of them are just like the christians, they follow their beliefs, but not word for word. the extremists can be likened to the ultra conservative, bible hugging religious nut jobs in the bible belt of the good ol' US of A.

there are too many differences to make profiling correct. Economic, religion, race, even how much you actually believe in your religion.

[johnjzjz]

Originally Posted by Ian

also, that figure of 1/2 the muslims in the world flying planes into buildings is not accurate at all. a majority of them are just like the christians, they follow their beliefs, but not word for word. the extremists can be likened to the ultra conservative, bible hugging religious nut jobs in the bible belt of the good ol' US of A.

there are too many differences to make profiling correct. Economic, religion, race, even how much you actually believe in your religion.

a majority of them are just like the christians, they follow their beliefs, but not word for word. the extremists can be likened to the ultra conservative, bible hugging religious nut jobs in the bible belt of the good ol' US of A.

Fill me in -- the plane or planes that were hi jacked buy christians and flown into buildings ??? what page was that on again -- the crusades were muslims against christian knights -- or did they omit that too in history in the masive re write -- your lost young fellow but theirs hope age brings wisdom --

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[Frosty]

Do I think "profiling" is wrong? Yes. Does it exist today? Sure. I can't say that if I was an airline security guard I wouldn't keep a closer eye on an Arab looking person than a white person. I know that's wrong but that's the world we live in today(or maybe my own weakness).

...and LMFAO@the people who have the attitude of "Well let them tap my phones and violate the Constitution..I mean if I'm clean what do I have to worry about?" You guys will never EVER get it....EVER.

[Ian]

I guess me comparing the radical muslims directly to the radical christians was slightly off. no, radical christians dont fly planes into buildings. they do however follow their religion word for word and openly hate anyone who doesnt believe what they do (other religions and gays as an example). the radical muslims are the same way, except they believe that if you die doing good for your religion that you'll go to heaven. its almost like a free pass to them and they take the opportunity.

[Ian]

Originally Posted by Frosty

and LMFAO@the people who have the attitude of "Well let them tap my phones and violate the Constitution..I mean if I'm clean what do I have to worry about?" You guys will never EVER get it....EVER.

[johnjzjz]

Originally Posted by Frosty

Do I think "profiling" is wrong? Yes. Does it exist today? Sure. I can't say that if I was an airline security guard I wouldn't keep a closer eye on an Arab looking person than a white person. I know that's wrong but that's the world we live in today(or maybe my own weakness).

...and LMFAO@the people who have the attitude of "Well let them tap my phones and violate the Constitution..I mean if I'm clean what do I have to worry about?" You guys will never EVER get it....EVER.

oh i get it the same way you do cept -- the us gov could care less about you or me and anything we might be talking about on the phone or anywhere else -- thats the point you miss, we are and have never been the target -- the wire taps the us wanted and got --- in the news paper you read they were on your home phone -- in the real world it was the connection to foreign country's that have Tye's to extremists -- i know you dont believe that they are tapping your phone -- we are at war and have been for quite a while, do i think all thats been done is ok ( no ) but they are not done, and its not over, if we leave with out the job we started in 92 finished we will be sorry -- jz

[Frosty]

I don't care if they're tapping Muhammad talking to Akmed or if they're tapping a 93yr old woman named Ethal talking to Bernadette about last nights bingo game

If they do it legally through the proper channels fine, but for the masses to have the "well if I'm doing anything wrong why should I care" attitude is downright scary.

[1972LT1]

Originally Posted by Ian

I guess me comparing the radical muslims directly to the radical christians was slightly off. no, radical christians dont fly planes into buildings. they do however follow their religion word for word and openly hate anyone who doesnt believe what they do (other religions and gays as an example). the radical muslims are the same way, except they believe that if you die doing good for your religion that you'll go to heaven. its almost like a free pass to them and they take the opportunity.

Radical Muslims suicide bomb, radical Christians bomb abortion clinics....Murder is wrong in every religion unless it's in the name of god

[1972LT1]

Originally Posted by Ian

and you dont think that has anything to do with a corrupt justice system?

*edit* you're stupid if you believe the justice system is even halfway close to perfect.

It's not perfect,but it's all we have unless you have better idea.