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a grand, the guy took the interior out of it because his vette caught fire lol. its an awesome deal for a motor and trans with 44k on it.(im getting it from one of my dads buddies)
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After selling the trans and rear, the engine should be free or close to it. That's a good deal IMO.
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Originally Posted by Blacdout96
I as well thought about a C4 transaxle conversion into the camaro. I do autocross, so it might be nice to have IRS, even though the C4's have some geometry issue's.
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C4 didn't have a transaxle, did it? Transaxle started with the C5, no?
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Sorry, used to saying that too much, no they aren't transaxles, just IRS systems.
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Uh yeah, after they surprized buttsecks us at Pearl Harbor?
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08-25-2009, 05:41 AM
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08-25-2009, 06:29 AM
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08-25-2009, 07:59 AM
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Wayne Due is out of business.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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08-25-2009, 08:09 AM
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Isnt a Dana 44 out of a Viper? that's way too rich for my blood. another thing about vette is the track, whats it for C4 and C5 rears compared to Camaro's. My concern would be my 11" rims in the rear not fitting in the back.
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Uh yeah, after they surprized buttsecks us at Pearl Harbor?
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08-25-2009, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Blacdout96
Isnt a Dana 44 out of a Viper? that's way too rich for my blood. another thing about vette is the track, whats it for C4 and C5 rears compared to Camaro's. My concern would be my 11" rims in the rear not fitting in the back.
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Dana 36 was 1984, Dana 44 was 1985-96.
To drag this I think you would need 3 driveshaft loops.
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08-25-2009, 08:29 AM
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But I don't drag race, I autocross, it would be perfect for me, but I'd rather not try to sort out the C4's over/understeer. What the track dimensions though, anybody know?
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Uh yeah, after they surprized buttsecks us at Pearl Harbor?
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08-25-2009, 08:31 AM
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i was just showing that it is possible. i had seen a 4th gen with the swap done but i couldnt find any links, that was years ago.
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08-25-2009, 08:36 AM
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I know Paul, just adding that in case anyone was going to research him.
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But I don't drag race, I autocross, it would be perfect for me, but I'd rather not try to sort out the C4's over/understeer. What the track dimensions though, anybody know?
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I don't understand, wouldn't you have to sort out over/understeer (setup) for any car?
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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08-25-2009, 08:38 AM
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I know Paul, just adding that in case anyone was going to research him.
I don't understand, wouldn't you have to sort out over/understeer (setup) for any car?
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If it still has similar problems as the C3's, it has camber issues.
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08-25-2009, 08:39 AM
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What does that mean?
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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C4 rears had it especially because of the geometry when you brake into a corner, I forget the exact problems, but when you decelerate, the centerline for the suspension is raised too high, and has a tendency to snap the rear, and also changes the camber drastically. granted doing a swap like this would certainly need alot of custom parts, meaning theres no kit that could automatically correct it, hell you could install it right and still have the bad geometry. It's just that I havent heard alot of neg. feedback on C5 IRS sysytems, which would probably don't have alot of the problems the C4 rears had. Once again, even using a rear like that, applying it to our cars could change the geometry.
Edit: Bill beat me to it lol
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Uh yeah, after they surprized buttsecks us at Pearl Harbor?
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08-25-2009, 08:46 AM
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In the 63-82 setup the bottom strut rod is mounted in rubber, so it can "lengthen" during hard cornering and introduces positive camber. And I think that there is also some positive camber introduced when the driveline wears, since the half shafts are the upper control arms. This is why a lot of C2 and C3 guys install "smart struts" which are rod ended adjustable control arms, like adjustable LCAs in a 4th gen just mounted sideways.
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08-25-2009, 09:10 AM
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In the 63-82 setup the bottom strut rod is mounted in rubber, so it can "lengthen" during hard cornering and introduces positive camber. And I think that there is also some positive camber introduced when the driveline wears, since the half shafts are the upper control arms. This is why a lot of C2 and C3 guys install "smart struts" which are rod ended adjustable control arms, like adjustable LCAs in a 4th gen just mounted sideways.
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Oh, ok, oe part issues. That sounds like it can be at least partially overcome with better parts.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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08-25-2009, 09:15 AM
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Oh, ok, oe part issues. That sounds like it can be at least partially overcome with better parts.
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Partially, yes. Wheelhop is also an issue if you have a lot of torque, and the traction bar for the C3 IRS welds to the bottom of the car so you lose some more ground clearance.
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C3s have transverse leafs? Do C4s?
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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Yes, but it was a composite mono.
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C3s have transverse leafs? Do C4s?
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Yes, C5 and C6 have it too.
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what is a good site to learn about vettes?
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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www.corvetteforum.com
www.corvetteforums.com
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i cant stand the majority of corvette owners... 100% original or they consider you the devil
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08-25-2009, 10:21 AM
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i cant stand the majority of corvette owners... 100% original or they consider you the devil
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QFT 
Had a guy come in here tellign me he no longer goes to corvette shows with his car cause they like to pick it apart. god for bid you upgrade or show your taste in a performance car.
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08-25-2009, 10:26 AM
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im seriously considering putting my dodge ram diesel Cummins 12v in my 79 vette.... with a bunch of diesel upgrades of course...
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im seriously considering putting my dodge ram diesel Cummins 12v in my 79 vette.... with a bunch of diesel upgrades of course...
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You do that, and I'll be morethen happy to help, I'd love to se the faces of the vette owners when you roll up.
I know it was gaudy (it was my frineds car and didint wantt oput a dime in it when he was done) I assisted my friend with that cumstang my friend had. traded it so I don't knwo what happened with it, but it was fun to do that, adn always turns heads.
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