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Old 01-24-2013, 07:38 PM   #1
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Can we talk tools?

So over the years I've spent thousands of dollars on parts for my cars and still use a crappy sears off brand ratchet set, a few open wrenches, a hammer and screw drivers. I want to build a work bench, buy some new tools and up grade what I have.

What are the absolute essentials that every car guy/home owner/man should have?


What brands are you buying now that craftmen is made in china?
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:41 PM   #2
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those two items I think are on the bottom of the list......

from what I use at work and bring home the most a electric driver, 3/8 and 1/4 electric guns

for working on cars deep, shallow sockets, extensions and swivels always help (extensions and sockets with a gripped surface will help when they are covered in oil and coolant)

a good set of pliers, cutters and vice grips as well
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:03 PM   #5
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I just got the 309 piece set from craftsman for half price.
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1/4, 3/8, 1/2 socket sets
Metric and SAE combination wrenches
Keystone and Phillips Screwdrivers
Good set of channel lock pliers
Vice grips
Metric and SAE Allen Wrenches
Hammer
Torque Wrench
Multimeter
Electric Drill
Utility knife
No fewer than 3 flashlights
Electrical pliers
Bottle of scotch
Revolver with a single bullet

Probably a lot more, just thinking out loud. J/K on the last two of course.
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Fire extinguisher. Multiple if possible
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:26 PM   #8
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Fire extinguisher. Multiple if possible
Got em. Also have an Air compressor. Good suggestions though.

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I have a lot of the stuff listed.

I think I'm gonna order a big ass kit instead of everything individual. Brand suggestions?
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The key is really knowing when to buy a quality tool (ratchets) and when you can 'skimp' a bit, like having a nice selection of cheap screw drivers in addition to a few good ones. It's fairly easy to over spend. But for the home guy, that is usually not worth it. It all depends on what you are trying to do and how often you are going to do it.

This is a great home tool box btw. Good price, reasonably priced, decent size.
http://www.harborfreight.com/roller-...ity-68784.html
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:27 PM   #10
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One of my favorite topics!

I still have the same 200-odd piece Craftsman (Sears) mechanic's tool set I got back when I was 19 (The set's over twenty years old). I've broken sockets since then and have had zero issues exchanging them for new ones. In fact, just swapped a few this past weekend. This is the core of my tool collection and probably of the highest quality.

I have continued to try and buy Craftsman as often as possible as the hand tools are guaranteed, and I seldom have to cash in that guarantee. I've learned that while Harbor Freight is awesome for reduced prices on stuff like the tool box above, I usually only buy disposable items from them, such as gloves, sanding discs, cutoff wheels and stepped drill bits. When it comes to tools, you get what you pay for. Same goes for Tractor Supply and similar outlets. I had the same Craftsman angle grinder for many years before it finally died from aggressive use (Three years into my fascination with metal fab). It died in the middle of a project, so I bought one on the cheap at TSC (A store I LOVE for grade 8 hardware and welding supplies...but that's another story) and then ordered another from Harbor Freight figuring that if one was good, two was more gooder (One for cutting, one for grinding). Luckily I wear welding gloves when I work with metal, because the TSC grinder lasted about six months and then literally burst into flames in my hands (You had to see me playing hot potato with it as I ran outside and threw it in a snow bank...PRICELESS!). The Harbor Freight job lasted a short while longer and then...poof. Done. Went back to Sears, bought two, and have had no problems since.

Mentioned above was at least three flashlights. Not a bad idea. In addition to the standard flashlight, I have a halogen spot light that is great for working under the car and a retractable drop light. Oh, and a headband mounted flashlight for when I have no one to hold a light or nowhere to hang one.

Another great idea: Magnet on a stick. I almost always drop a nut or bolt in a weird, unreachable spot in the engine compartment (Usually right after I say, "I'll be done in a few minutes, honey!" [Note: While working on a VEHICLE, NOT in the bedroom...that's at least ten minutes]) This little gadget has saved the neighbors an abundance of my profanity.

The other thing to consider is what you're going to be doing and how much you're going to do it. I bought a good set of brake tools after attempting my first drum brake maintenance and that has worked out well for me over the years and has gotten plenty of use. In other words, if you don't need it, don't buy, but if you're going to use it a lot, it might pay for itself the first few times you use it. I've learned the hard way that it's important to have the right tool for the job plenty of times.

Very timely post. While I was walking around Sears the other day with a bunch of broken sockets and a gift card in my pocket, I was pleasantly surprised to find that there was nothing that I immediately NEEDED to spend it on. Took me over twenty years to get there...

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Old 01-24-2013, 11:44 PM   #11
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I have the box. I think I'm gonna start with horses, drill bits, and a a set of power tools to build a work bench. I'm so mad I didn't get to do this during winter break. I figure I should also do some inventory before I buy stuff individually.

Does anyone have any good work bench plans?
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Gear wrench ratchet. Ftw
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Surprised no one mentioned a good sawzall and assortment of blades for it.

That and a nice lil 10# sledge.

Flare wrenches are nice if you are working on brake lines etc, and if you want to do any thing sort of correctly, a good torque wrench is a nice investment.

Biggest thing I would love to get is a plasma cutter and welder. Gotta wait till I move out so I can wire in a 220 line
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A big dead blow hammer may be even more useful.

Good jack stands of different sizes, good ramps.
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^ a nice floor jack is always good too.
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more than one, also varying sizes can be useful.

and a few good blocks of wood in different sizes.
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On the home owner side, I would say a good 18 volt cordless drill, 7 1/4" circular saw, tape masure, a square, 24" and 48" level, pipe wrenches, 10" or 12" miter saw. I could go on all day! I guess it really depends on your skill level and what kind of projects you're willing to tackle.
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A set of dial or digital calipers, too.
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i would set your bench, boxes, etc up and finalize 100% your space and organization situation.. then go through what you have and see what will continue to get by and what wont...

you dont need all new sockets right away, just go get higher quality ratchets.. then as sockets break or go missing, write it down... remember, you can get carried away easily due to... deep sockets and shallow sockets, six point and twelve point, 1/4 3/8 1/2 etc and run out of space if you dont plan the space out first
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vise grips, a few pairs, including a small pair - don't buy cheap ones, vise grip brand!
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First aid kit
Swear jar
Hot glue gun
Heat gun
Stereo with speakers
Table vise
Bench grinder
Drill press
Work stool (instead of kneeling/squatting)
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Haha swear jar, that jar would be full for sure after doing work in a f body motor compartment
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i would set your bench, boxes, etc up and finalize 100% your space and organization situation.. then go through what you have and see what will continue to get by and what wont...

you dont need all new sockets right away, just go get higher quality ratchets.. then as sockets break or go missing, write it down... remember, you can get carried away easily due to... deep sockets and shallow sockets, six point and twelve point, 1/4 3/8 1/2 etc and run out of space if you dont plan the space out first
This was really helpful. I found a bench plan. Ill build it and go from there.
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One thing I'm shocked at how much I ended up using was an electric impact wrench. I bought it for a specific purpose, and i end up using it on almost every project now. Wish I stretched for a quality battery powered one, though.
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The best thing I invested in after already having a fairly large collection of sockets/wrenches was snap on ratchets. I started with 3/8 and 1/2 inch, now just recently (2 years after the purchase of the first set of ratchets) I have a 1/4 inch and a long handle 3/8 swivel head ratchet. The higher tooth count and the feel of the ratchets makes working in tight areas a lot easier.

Number two investment would be a good 18v drill/impact combo kit. I got the ridgid one and have no problem with it, plus it has lifetime service agreement along with the same agreement on batteries and chargers.

No I am looking at getting more snap on and mac tools. Ebay and craigslist can have very good deals if you keep your eyes open. Still more expensive than craftsman but in items like ratchets its been worth every penny.

Personally I also suggest getting metric tools as a priority over SAE. If you only have the money for one set, I'd take metric any day, than get the SAE when your wallet allows for it.
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