help choosing my rear...

[Formula_Ltx]

wasn't sure. I know ls1 abs ring was on axle. just a good thing to double check lol

[BarneyMobile]

Originally Posted by Formula_Ltx

wasn't sure. I know ls1 abs ring was on axle. just a good thing to double check lol

The abs exciter ring in only on the axle for 4 channel abs/tcs cars. The 3 channel cars had the exciter ring inside the housing. It wasnt LS1 specific. If you have and LS1 car without traction control then your rear wont have the rings on the axle ends.

[sweetbmxrider]

Originally Posted by transmaro93

rear brakes on ls1's are different.... they have a drum e-brake setup rather than the lt1 style caliper that incorperates the e-brake as part of the caliper... so i have to change the backing plates... and im going to try to knock the reluctor rings off the axels also while i have them out becuase they are going to make changing wheel studs a nightmare...

people swap to ls1 rear brakes all the time, check it out. might be worth it i dono!

[Formula_Ltx]

Originally Posted by BarneyMobile

The abs exciter ring in only on the axle for 4 channel abs/tcs cars. The 3 channel cars had the exciter ring inside the housing. It wasnt LS1 specific. If you have and LS1 car without traction control then your rear wont have the rings on the axle ends.

Thanks always good to learn something new!!

[transmaro93]

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider

people swap to ls1 rear brakes all the time, check it out. might be worth it i dono!

no thanks... im pretty sure the ls1 rear brakes are larger and dont clear drag wheels as good... plus its just more money that id have to spend for no reason when the lt1 brakes stop the car fine... i have to reseal the case anyway becuase its leaking so i have to open it... if it had came with the complete brakes i would have used to them... but im not going out of my way to get them...

[sweetbmxrider]

oh oh nevermind. i thought they were on there and you were swappin cause the e brake didn't hook up the same. nevermind then

[spina74]

I'm in the same boat here, I'm stuck between a 12 bolt and a ford 9". I like the 12 bolt because it is a direct swap, but its a pain in the ass to swap gears. The reason I like the ford 9" is because of swapping gears is easy. Now I was told I can buy 2 center pieces for a 9" and just interchange them for street driving or racing. I'm not sure if this is true, but does anyone know somebody who can custom fab up a 9" if I happen to find one?

Originally Posted by spina74

I'm in the same boat here, I'm stuck between a 12 bolt and a ford 9". I like the 12 bolt because it is a direct swap, but its a pain in the ass to swap gears. The reason I like the ford 9" is because of swapping gears is easy. Now I was told I can buy 2 center pieces for a 9" and just interchange them for street driving or racing. I'm not sure if this is true, but does anyone know somebody who can custom fab up a 9" if I happen to find one?

your out of your mind if you consider swapping a center section just to go race. i dont like swapping tires so i just street drive on my slicks. 12 bolt or 9" will both handle anything a street car can throw at it. if you throw enough power at either one they will break

[spina74]

HA, I only planned to swap them if I was going balls to the wall at the track, not everytime...I like doing work...but not that much lol. I guess I should just get a 12 bolt, and 3.73's? Also, has anyone came out with a 3 channel 12 bolt?

[transmaro93]

any rear you get is going to have to be 82-02 fbody specific... with the panhard and lca brackets.. so either way its a custom fabbed rear... and they make both 9 inches and 12 bolts like this.... strange and moser sells both... it is alot of work and also expensive to have 2 center sections though... most costly part on the 9 inch so keep that in mind... they are easier to work on though...there is rear end guys out there that can fab a rear up for you... but by the time you get done id think youd be over the price of a new one from strange or moser...

[JSPERFORMANCE]

We can get you a 12 bolt with three channel ABS and whatever gear, differential, and brake combination you prefer..

i would go with Strange over Moser because the Torque arm bolts go all the way through the Strange where the Moser uses 4 small bolts. my Torque arm bolts are tack welded so that they dont back out (i have a moser and its a common issue)

[NJ Torque]

Where can I get those bolts from, Josh?

[69BirdX]

Hey did an article In car craft about all three comparing power weight and strenght.

[JSPERFORMANCE]

Originally Posted by NJ Torque

Where can I get those bolts from, Josh?

What bolts?

[B4C]

Originally Posted by NJ Torque

Where can I get those bolts from, Josh?

Torque arm bolts for a moser 12 bolt?? Auto parts store they were wither 1/2" 16 or 1/2" 13 I cant remember grade 8, I put a chit load of red locktite on mine and 1Quickbird saftey wired his

[1QWIKBIRD]

Originally Posted by JerzLT1

i would go with Strange over Moser because the Torque arm bolts go all the way through the Strange where the Moser uses 4 small bolts. my Torque arm bolts are tack welded so that they dont back out (i have a moser and its a common issue)

Go here for pics of what what happens when the bolts on the moser 12-bolt loosen up.....scroll to the bottom

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2446297/7

Surely I'll take some of the blame for not paying close enough attention to the noises coming from the rear. I thought it was a rod end getting sloppy, but nope. Nothing a heli-coil, some red loc-tite and saftey wire can't handle. Surely there are better designs available.

Spohn was pretty good about getting me a new mounting bracket for the TA, which was nice to see. I think they only charged me $45-50? I was thinking it was going to be a lot worse.

Other than this issue the rear has been flawless.

[1QWIKBIRD]

Originally Posted by B4C

Torque arm bolts for a moser 12 bolt?? Auto parts store they were wither 1/2" 16 or 1/2" 13 I cant remember grade 8, I put a chit load of red locktite on mine and 1Quickbird saftey wired his

the bolts are 1/2-13 and about 1-1/2" UHL

[spina74]

What gears would you guys suggest for me, 3.73's 4.10 or 4.11's. I want something so I can launch hard at the track, but I want to take some trips down the shore with the car and I usually like to do 70-80 mph, and I don't want to burn a whole tank of gas going down since my rpms will be higher.

[transmaro93]

4.10's 4.11's should be good for a 6speed... you might not be ass good as the 342 but it will be comfortable to drive on the highway... if you drive the highway everyday i would go with 373's but you wont get that launch your looking for with those... im running 411's in mine altough i havent driven it yet... i had 410s in my old rear and they were great but i was taking weekly trips back and forth to Pennsylvania (2hrs one way) and they were too much for that so i went back to stock... but if you dont drive the highway everyday id go 4.10 or 4.11

[Blackbirdws6]

Missed this thread and I'm not sure if you've made your decision yet. I did make it to the track a couple times in the past few months and I would say the S60 held up well. Sure its probably overkill for my current power level but I do have bigger plans in the future. Plus I planned on racing my heavy vert the way it sits so a little overkill couldn't hurt.

I launched the car at over 5k numerous times and the rear is still as silent as the day it was installed. Speaking of the install on a LT1, everything was a direct bolt-in and it comes with the LT1 backing plates ready to rock. The only thing which was a slight PITA was swapping the brake lines. We needed to gingerly straighten out a few sections which wasn't bad but the only delayed portion of the install.

Strength, price and ease of the install all swayed me towards the S60. Just my opinion and experience.