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Old 12-28-2007, 06:23 PM   #1
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$200 to weld in sub frame connectors?!?!?!



So, I have the 96 Trans Am and it is sad.
I got UMI boxed sub frame connectors for Xmas.

Genie was off today and offered to take the T/A to get the sub frames installed. I called a local place and they quoted me $200?!?!?!?!

BS!!!

Anyone wanna install them for me?
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Old 12-28-2007, 06:27 PM   #2
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i know money is tight but that probably is not a bad price. most shops charge 60.00 to 80.00 hour labor now or maybe even a little more. there is a shop i have gone to and they charge 75.00 hour whether it is to weld a chassis or cut a sheet of aluminum. labor is expensive anywhere.
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Old 12-28-2007, 06:29 PM   #3
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Really?
Damn.

When I got them installed on the bird, I also had a ran tech tq arm, poly tq arm mount, poly tranny mount and hall front shocks installed and I paid about $250.... granted.... this was several years ago.....
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Old 12-28-2007, 06:29 PM   #4
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same place james? im gonna assume you called stage 1 but i dont know
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Old 12-28-2007, 06:42 PM   #5
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Yup, i was shocked
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Old 12-28-2007, 06:49 PM   #6
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Figure any competent shop with a lift could do it. I did both my 96 and 86, but certain members seen the method I used on the 3rd gen to get it in the air.... LOL.
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Yeah but that was for v6 parts.... LMAO...


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Really?
Damn.

When I got them installed on the bird, I also had a ran tech tq arm, poly tq arm mount, poly tranny mount and hall front shocks installed and I paid about $250.... granted.... this was several years ago.....
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Old 12-28-2007, 06:58 PM   #8
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Figure any competent shop with a lift could do it. I did both my 96 and 86, but certain members seen the method I used on the 3rd gen to get it in the air.... LOL.
would u mind sharing that method please
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Old 12-28-2007, 07:23 PM   #9
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would u mind sharing that method please
It involved 2 forklifts ... that is all ..
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Old 12-28-2007, 07:40 PM   #10
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mufflex charged me i think 90 bucks for mine, they were doing other stuff too, but the itemized part of the bill said 85 or 90 for the subframes....
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Old 12-28-2007, 08:51 PM   #11
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I welded the Spohn SFC's in my fathers 2000 Z28 in about an hour. I could see 200 for a thridgen, but not a 4th based off of their design.
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Old 12-28-2007, 10:51 PM   #12
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should be under 100 to weld in sfc
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Old 12-29-2007, 09:40 AM   #13
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Don't LT1 fuel lines run along the channel you install the SFC's in? Wouldn't that add to the price over a V6 or LS1 install?
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Old 12-29-2007, 09:48 AM   #14
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i wouldnt trust stage 1 anymore. they did such a horrible job on my headers, ill never go to them again. ESPECIALLY for welding. both O2 bungs they welded leak like sives. a 5yo with a stinger could have welded these better. not to mention they 'forgot' a band clamp...so that part also leaks.
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Old 12-29-2007, 09:56 AM   #15
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Don't LT1 fuel lines run along the channel you install the SFC's in? Wouldn't that add to the price over a V6 or LS1 install?
yea, I took rags, soaked them in water and put them around the lines near where i was welding, and kept switching them to keep the heat off the lines
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:37 PM   #16
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bahhhh just return em and get bolt in SFCs for now, then weld them in the future. i had my bolt ins on the car for 2 years and they never came loose and this is me we're talking about
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Old 12-29-2007, 02:14 PM   #17
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......... and this is me we're talking about
hes got a point. At times I don't like this guy but hes got a point ....
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I bought the bolt ins for my car, havent hada problem yet, and its nice incase I have to change up something, plus jsut like ron said, you an weld them in later down the line if you wish to.
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i had my bolt ins on the car for 2 years and they never came loose and this is me we're talking about
Yeah...but if you baby a car the way you do, they'll never come loose.
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I charge $180 to install 4th gen 2 point connectors. This includes, prepping and painting the surrounding floor. At my labor rate it equals 3 hours labor.. To do the job correctly it takes that long. The electric and rent has to get paid some how..
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Old 12-30-2007, 01:19 AM   #21
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$90 at Mufflex for me too...

prepping and painting the surrounding floor ? LOL !

no one cares what the underbody looks like, as it will get covered in road grime soon enough.
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$90 at Mufflex for me too...

prepping and painting the surrounding floor ? LOL !

no one cares what the underbody looks like, as it will get covered in road grime soon enough.
i care, all this road salt on exposed metal underneath a car is asking for rot, ask me how i know?
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Old 12-30-2007, 04:54 AM   #23
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i care, all this road salt on exposed metal underneath a car is asking for rot, ask me how i know?

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How do you know???
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i care, all this road salt on exposed metal underneath a car is asking for rot, ask me how i know?
then you'd have to "prep & paint" the entire underbody, not just where the SFC's were welded in...
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Old 12-30-2007, 09:27 AM   #25
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then you'd have to "prep & paint" the entire underbody, not just where the SFC's were welded in...

when you weld you have to grind down the surrounding areas to bare metal then after it's welded you have to paint the exposed metal so it doesn't rust.
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