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12-28-2007, 06:23 PM
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Token v6 Guy
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$200 to weld in sub frame connectors?!?!?!
So, I have the 96 Trans Am and it is sad.
I got UMI boxed sub frame connectors for Xmas.
Genie was off today and offered to take the T/A to get the sub frames installed. I called a local place and they quoted me $200?!?!?!?!
BS!!!
Anyone wanna install them for me?
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12-28-2007, 06:27 PM
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10 Second Club
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i know money is tight but that probably is not a bad price. most shops charge 60.00 to 80.00 hour labor now or maybe even a little more. there is a shop i have gone to and they charge 75.00 hour whether it is to weld a chassis or cut a sheet of aluminum. labor is expensive anywhere.
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12-28-2007, 06:29 PM
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Token v6 Guy
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Really?
Damn.
When I got them installed on the bird, I also had a ran tech tq arm, poly tq arm mount, poly tranny mount and hall front shocks installed and I paid about $250.... granted.... this was several years ago.....
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12-28-2007, 06:29 PM
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Mr Fantastic
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same place james? im gonna assume you called stage 1 but i dont know
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12-28-2007, 06:42 PM
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Token v6 Guy
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Yup, i was shocked
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12-28-2007, 06:49 PM
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11 second club / Moderator
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Figure any competent shop with a lift could do it. I did both my 96 and 86, but certain members seen the method I used on the 3rd gen to get it in the air.... LOL.
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12-28-2007, 06:56 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
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Yeah but that was for v6 parts.... LMAO...
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Originally Posted by 12secondv6
Really?
Damn.
When I got them installed on the bird, I also had a ran tech tq arm, poly tq arm mount, poly tranny mount and hall front shocks installed and I paid about $250.... granted.... this was several years ago.....
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12-28-2007, 06:58 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deadtrend1
Figure any competent shop with a lift could do it. I did both my 96 and 86, but certain members seen the method I used on the 3rd gen to get it in the air.... LOL.
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would u mind sharing that method please
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12-28-2007, 07:23 PM
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11 second club / Moderator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Predator86
would u mind sharing that method please
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It involved 2 forklifts ... that is all ..
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12-28-2007, 07:40 PM
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BadMod
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mufflex charged me i think 90 bucks for mine, they were doing other stuff too, but the itemized part of the bill said 85 or 90 for the subframes....
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12-28-2007, 08:51 PM
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I welded the Spohn SFC's in my fathers 2000 Z28 in about an hour. I could see 200 for a thridgen, but not a 4th based off of their design.
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12-28-2007, 10:51 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
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should be under 100 to weld in sfc
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12-29-2007, 09:40 AM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Don't LT1 fuel lines run along the channel you install the SFC's in? Wouldn't that add to the price over a V6 or LS1 install?
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12-29-2007, 09:48 AM
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i wouldnt trust stage 1 anymore. they did such a horrible job on my headers, ill never go to them again. ESPECIALLY for welding. both O2 bungs they welded leak like sives. a 5yo with a stinger could have welded these better. not to mention they 'forgot' a band clamp...so that part also leaks.
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12-29-2007, 09:56 AM
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11 second club / Moderator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WildBillyT
Don't LT1 fuel lines run along the channel you install the SFC's in? Wouldn't that add to the price over a V6 or LS1 install?
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yea, I took rags, soaked them in water and put them around the lines near where i was welding, and kept switching them to keep the heat off the lines
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12-29-2007, 01:37 PM
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10 Second Club; Has fan club
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bahhhh just return em and get bolt in SFCs for now, then weld them in the future. i had my bolt ins on the car for 2 years and they never came loose and this is me we're talking about
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Last edited by 98tadriver; 12-29-2007 at 01:37 PM.
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12-29-2007, 02:14 PM
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11 second club / Moderator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 98tadriver
......... and this is me we're talking about
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hes got a point. At times I don't like this guy but hes got a point ....
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12-29-2007, 02:27 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Galloway, NJ
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I bought the bolt ins for my car, havent hada problem yet, and its nice incase I have to change up something, plus jsut like ron said, you an weld them in later down the line if you wish to.
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12-29-2007, 03:16 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 98tadriver
i had my bolt ins on the car for 2 years and they never came loose and this is me we're talking about
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Yeah...but if you baby a car the way you do, they'll never come loose.
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12-29-2007, 05:30 PM
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I charge $180 to install 4th gen 2 point connectors. This includes, prepping and painting the surrounding floor. At my labor rate it equals 3 hours labor.. To do the job correctly it takes that long. The electric and rent has to get paid some how..
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12-30-2007, 01:19 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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$90 at Mufflex for me too...
prepping and painting the surrounding floor ? LOL !
no one cares what the underbody looks like, as it will get covered in road grime soon enough.
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12-30-2007, 02:18 AM
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12 Second Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnG
$90 at Mufflex for me too...
prepping and painting the surrounding floor ? LOL !
no one cares what the underbody looks like, as it will get covered in road grime soon enough.
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i care, all this road salt on exposed metal underneath a car is asking for rot, ask me how i know?
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12-30-2007, 04:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maroman88
i care, all this road salt on exposed metal underneath a car is asking for rot, ask me how i know?
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.........
How do you know???
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12-30-2007, 08:10 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maroman88
i care, all this road salt on exposed metal underneath a car is asking for rot, ask me how i know?
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then you'd have to "prep & paint" the entire underbody, not just where the SFC's were welded in...
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12-30-2007, 09:27 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Haledon, NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnG
then you'd have to "prep & paint" the entire underbody, not just where the SFC's were welded in...
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when you weld you have to grind down the surrounding areas to bare metal then after it's welded you have to paint the exposed metal so it doesn't rust.
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