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he will be way lighter than 3600, prolly closer to 3200.
wayfast, that is a hell of a deal for those heads.
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01-01-2007, 04:53 PM
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he will be way lighter than 3600, prolly closer to 3200.
wayfast, that is a hell of a deal for those heads.
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Yeah, Tim is involved! If Tim ever buys a plasma cutter, look out!
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Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
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01-01-2007, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
Yeah, Tim is involved! If Tim ever buys a plasma cutter, look out!
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take the time and go look at the Miller being demoed -- had i not seen it live i would have thought a bridge port cut he angle they cut on a pipe-- jz
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01-01-2007, 05:21 PM
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got to see it at SEMA. great toy, but i can't afford it 
matt's car i sfairly low option so it prolly weighed close to 3200 stock. he has already removed a bunch of stuff so there is a good chance of the car hitting the line 3000-3100 i would guess.
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01-01-2007, 05:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
got to see it at SEMA. great toy, but i can't afford it
matt's car i sfairly low option so it prolly weighed close to 3200 stock. he has already removed a bunch of stuff so there is a good chance of the car hitting the line 3000-3100 i would guess. |
my is a can no dash no interior only metal roof and floors q panels all fibre and lexan and on the scale at e town with 160 lb driver its over 3086 15 and change front and 14 in the rear 2 gen 79 car sbc
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01-01-2007, 05:31 PM
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! air !a/c back seat spare tire, and ill prolly remove the passanger seat to for track.
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01-01-2007, 05:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
got to see it at SEMA. great toy, but i can't afford it
matt's car i sfairly low option so it prolly weighed close to 3200 stock. he has already removed a bunch of stuff so there is a good chance of the car hitting the line 3000-3100 i would guess. |
after owning half ass junk ( because ) i dont do that any more only the best avail and the job is cake not well that the best we could do --- craftsman is not even ok for a novis -- ya no the difference bite the bullet --- the real guys well say every time someone looks at something you did that is your rep and if you give it away for a few bucks - you will never get their --
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01-01-2007, 05:39 PM
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! air !a/c back seat spare tire, and ill prolly remove the passanger seat to for track.
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it takes a 100 pounds for a tenth to show up on a real drivers ticket and lots of race time in the same car dont bother taking out seats -- what you have completly removed did you put it on a scale ???????????/
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01-01-2007, 05:43 PM
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a/c, complete system w/ wiring weighs around 75lbs
early 3rd gen rear seats are around 22lbs
spare and jack is around 35lbs
pass seat track i can't imagine is more than 4 or 5 lbs
2nd gens are very heavy cars. they coudl easily be optoned to over 4000lbs. the biggest weight reduction you can do on them is to go aftermarket or fab up your own k-member. the martz engineering piece claims to drop 180-200lbs depending what brakes you go with.
to give you an idea of thirdgen weights, my 91RS was a well optioned T-Top car. it still had power windows, locks, hatch release, stock front seats, and a working air conditioner and weighed in at 3268 with 3/4 tank of gas at the line. they are very light cars and easy to drop weight from.
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01-01-2007, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
a/c, complete system w/ wiring weighs around 75lbs
early 3rd gen rear seats are around 22lbs
spare and jack is around 35lbs
pass seat track i can't imagine is more than 4 or 5 lbs
2nd gens are very heavy cars. they coudl easily be optoned to over 4000lbs. the biggest weight reduction you can do on them is to go aftermarket or fab up your own k-member. the martz engineering piece claims to drop 180-200lbs depending what brakes you go with.
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busters 3 gen X pro stock bickel car is 2200 w/ driver on return road hahahahhaha my 2 gen is a back up for my kids super gas nova and will never be worth anything i have way too much in it as it is --
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01-01-2007, 06:01 PM
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O yeah I forgot, I took out all the underpadding and probably wont have a headilner
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01-01-2007, 06:10 PM
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if it was my kid and it was still in the yard like that well let just say hahahhahahahahahahha
Customize: Silverado: Silverado: Trucks: Chevrolet
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01-01-2007, 06:17 PM
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keep the headliner. solid roof cars and big annoying echo chambers without them.
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01-01-2007, 06:19 PM
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Tim, are you molding a protégé? 
So, you are just building a drag car. So at this point why care what the outside looks like, the inside is goning to be a mess. No lady is gonna get in it. 
[hijack]BTW, I don't buy that claim of 180 lbs from the martz chassis. And that thing looks flimsy and appears to use the engine block for rigidity. And counting unrelated parts (CAs, brakes, etc) is weak for advertising a frame based on reduced weight. Stock on ain't that heavy, I moved mine around myself, and I am a weakling with a bad back. [/hijack]
Driver weight counts too. That is my biggest issue. 
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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01-01-2007, 06:22 PM
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they saved a bunch of weight by not including any provisions to mount a bumper on it. the later impact beam is almost 75lbs by itself!!!
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01-01-2007, 06:23 PM
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they saved a bunch of weight by not including any provisions to mount a bumper on it. the later impact beam is almost 75lbs by itself!!!
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I can do that with a sawzall (or a wrench, really). Still can't see why to buy that chassis.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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01-01-2007, 06:24 PM
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box tube > stitched together stampings
more rigid and way lighter
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01-01-2007, 06:51 PM
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(you can modify a 0.015 shim gasket for a 350 to fit a 400).
tin gasket wont work with steam holes
the 350 steel ring is aprox 4.090 in diam and sits on the block away from the bore .010 to .035 and the 400 motor is 4.125 the 350 metal ring is sitting inside the combustion chamber ??? almost its entire area it covers over the paper part -- that dident work for long if you did that - jz
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Should've elaborated I guess. You scribe the gasket from the inside of the bore to get the bore diameter and you cut it to fit or use a gasket with the appropriate size as a template. Do the same for the steam holes. That's what I meant by "modify." I used the rubber coated kind and I had no problems with my previous engine. But again, my point was that it's a short cut used primarily to get you the optimum quench height with a stock deck height block but it will also get you the tiniest bit of compression increase.
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01-06-2007, 02:02 PM
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Good news, I cleaned up 1 piston, and it looks real nice, cant be more then 5 years old. Bad news, my battery area is rusted.
Gonna return heads soon, and hopefully I can borrow an engine hoist to pull the motor and trans out and sell the short block for like $5 then ill get to work on sanding the engine bay down and repainting it. hope fully it will be done before spring.
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01-14-2007, 07:44 PM
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jsut go to the junk yard for valve covers, local parts store for gaskets(felpro permatorques are good and widely available), and don't worry about the vapor return stuff for the fuel pump just get a holley 110gph unit and be done with it
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