Attaching scoop to hood - NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds

usp55 · 06-03-2009, 01:28 PM

71 base modle bird, have a 3-4" cowl metal scoop i want to put on my stock flat hood. only seen one other 2nd gen bird with it and i liked the look. all my funds are going to bills and fixing my camaro, but i have some free time so i want to get that mini project going seeing as i already have the scoop. (came with the car)

whats the best way to do it? dont have acess to weld it. Read about using rivits, fiberglass, and then finally some bondo to blend it in. dont really care if u like or dont like that idea or the scoop, lets not get into that. looking to see whats the best way to do it. its it was a formy or t/a i wouldnt touch a shaker hood.

BonzoHansen · 06-03-2009, 01:43 PM

Forget it. All those methods you listed will fail - if factory smooth is the look you are going for.

usp55 · 06-03-2009, 01:46 PM

HAHA, well care to list a better way?

BonzoHansen · 06-03-2009, 01:58 PM

I guess a really good metal & body guy could weld it on. Or scrap it and buy a cowl hood. But you said no welding. How bubba-like can you accept for a hood on your car? It's gonna look like crap or race 'purpose built' only. What is the look you are going for? Nice or fabricated race?

maroman88 · 06-03-2009, 01:58 PM

there really isnt one.... the methods u mentioned will always end up cracking sooner or later

usp55 · 06-03-2009, 02:35 PM

Yea i looked to just buy a full on cowl hood but havent found anyone that makes them for a 2nd gen bird.

BonzoHansen · 06-03-2009, 02:51 PM

That is because you can get nice factory hood on birds. 2nd gen Camaros never really got cool hoods. Just bolt on nonsense 78-81.

Keep your eye our for a good formula hood.

unstable bob gable · 06-03-2009, 03:49 PM

The following manfs all list cowl hoods for 2nd gen 'boids:

http://www.vfnfiberglass.com/site.htm

http://www.glasstek.com/

http://www.usbodysource.com/

1QWIKBIRD · 06-03-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by unstable bob gable

The following manfs all list cowl hoods for 2nd gen 'boids:

http://www.vfnfiberglass.com/site.htm

http://www.glasstek.com/

http://www.usbodysource.com/

And if you go fiberglass.....don't go for the cheap seats. My buddy bought a fiberglass cowl hood for his 73 Camaro from usbodysource and it is a pile of pooh. Go for glasstek or vfn or maybe hardwood. I have a bolt-on Glasstek on my 70 Nova (4" cowl) and it fit great right out of the box and needed only minimal prep. The $$$$ you save on the initial purchase will more than likely be spent 3x on the prep and getting it to fit and look good.

Chris

BonzoHansen · 06-03-2009, 06:44 PM

Go Pontiac!

bubba428 · 06-03-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

I guess a really good metal & body guy could weld it on. Or scrap it and buy a cowl hood. But you said no welding. How bubba-like can you accept for a hood on your car? It's gonna look like crap or race 'purpose built' only. What is the look you are going for? Nice or fabricated race?

hey now dbag, i put a cowl on on my bird not a scoop

BonzoHansen · 06-03-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba428

he now dbag, i put a cowl on on my bird not a scoop

You are not the only bubba in the world!

LTb1ow · 06-03-2009, 09:23 PM

NastyEllEssWon · 06-04-2009, 01:03 AM

yeah just be careful with the tape. ITS PERMANENT!!!!

says so on the package

69BirdX · 06-04-2009, 06:12 AM

ive seen bolted on and fiberglass work. but the fiberglass as to be perfect

usp55 · 06-05-2009, 09:42 AM

just find me this hood -

WildBillyT · 06-05-2009, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 1QWIKBIRD

And if you go fiberglass.....don't go for the cheap seats. My buddy bought a fiberglass cowl hood for his 73 Camaro from usbodysource and it is a pile of pooh. Go for glasstek or vfn or maybe hardwood. I have a bolt-on Glasstek on my 70 Nova (4" cowl) and it fit great right out of the box and needed only minimal prep. The $$$$ you save on the initial purchase will more than likely be spent 3x on the prep and getting it to fit and look good.

Chris

Truer words have never been spoken in this case.

Unlimited products also peddles ****. Not **** as in flimsy, **** as in the hood isn't even "true" or "square". Very cheap as far as hoods go and it shows.

jims69camaro · 06-05-2009, 12:53 PM

i wonder why no one asked: is the cowl metal? are we talking about a metal hood?

if those two are affirmative, then the only way to get the job done is to weld. either buy yourself a welder and start practicing or take an auto body class at the vo-tech. you will not be happy with any other attachment - maybe one of the newer epoxies, but i wouldn't even consider anything else.

usp55 · 06-05-2009, 01:34 PM

its a metal scoop/metal factory hood

yea i have been researching the best way to do it. Been to a bunch of "hot rod" forums and have come across some very very stong and proven 2 part slow setting metal expoxies. Then another expoxy goes over both metal that is alittle more flexible that give the bondo/paint/etc time to flex alittle to reduce any cracking. i have a few products to pick from and the one thats keeps coming up on the other forums of a product called "lords"

jraney · 06-06-2009, 06:57 AM

Where did you find a steel cowl scoop? I would weld it in 1" long welds, but only every 4 inches and moving from onside to another to help reduce warpage and finish it off with USC All Meteal Body Filler, Eastwood sells this product. Another way and this would depend on how the edge where it meets the hood is formed. If the flange is bent under towards the inside of the scoop, I would use an epoxy and rivets and finish it off with the All Metal. Leading would be another option but not sure how that would hold up to any flexing.

usp55 · 06-06-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jraney

Where did you find a steel cowl scoop? I would weld it in 1" long welds, but only every 4 inches and moving from onside to another to help reduce warpage and finish it off with USC All Meteal Body Filler, Eastwood sells this product. Another way and this would depend on how the edge where it meets the hood is formed. If the flange is bent under towards the inside of the scoop, I would use an epoxy and rivets and finish it off with the All Metal. Leading would be another option but not sure how that would hold up to any flexing.

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

mine came with the car from the previous owner but this is the same thing