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06-28-2016, 12:57 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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23 cent gas tax hike
Might go into effect on Friday.
Anybody know if it includes diesel? The media tends to use "gas" and "fuel" interchangeably.
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06-28-2016, 01:04 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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http://politickernj.com/2016/06/sena...-and-tax-cuts/
According to that article, looks like differing raises on fuel types.
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06-28-2016, 06:40 PM
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Hopefully it goes into the road repair funds and not into bs funds if passed
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06-28-2016, 07:10 PM
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Hopefully it goes into the road repair funds and not into bs funds if passed
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No if...it passed this morning.
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06-28-2016, 07:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyBird
Hopefully it goes into the road repair funds and not into bs funds if passed
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Ha! It will be squandered in "administration" and lining the pockets of contractors like it already is.
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06-28-2016, 08:13 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyBird
Hopefully it goes into the road repair funds and not into bs funds if passed
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Do you forgot what state you live in....?
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Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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06-29-2016, 08:15 AM
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One can hope. not state, country....
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06-29-2016, 08:53 AM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 97camaro
Ha! It will be squandered in "administration" and lining the pockets of contractors like it already is.
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Hey, you are just jealous that you are not in the $35,000 stop sign industry.
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06-29-2016, 09:52 AM
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Quote:
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Hey, you are just jealous that you are not in the $35,000 stop sign industry.
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Passed a DOT worker cleaning graffiti off the BACK of a blue hospital "H" sign just outside of Camden 
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06-29-2016, 10:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 97camaro
Passed a DOT worker cleaning graffiti off the BACK of a blue hospital "H" sign just outside of Camden |
That is their job too...
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So much stupid, so little time.
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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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06-29-2016, 10:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyBird
One can hope. not state, country....
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Its a state tax doe
Quote:
Originally Posted by 97camaro
Passed a DOT worker cleaning graffiti off the BACK of a blue hospital "H" sign just outside of Camden |
I'd say its cheaper to replace but remember who would replace it 
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06-29-2016, 11:34 AM
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Talking funneling out of one and putting in other, not just a state thing
Last edited by DirtyBird; 06-29-2016 at 12:03 PM.
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06-29-2016, 12:08 PM
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Just heard this morning the state is giving 180 million to Stockton, Rowan, and some other schools..... That money couldn't go to infrastructure repair? These schools already charge out the wazoo, it's ******** money for them.
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Uh yeah, after they surprized buttsecks us at Pearl Harbor?
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06-29-2016, 12:31 PM
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Quote:
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That is their job too...
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Sure it might be something they do, but there are a million other things to do before cleaning the back of a sign.
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06-29-2016, 01:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyBird
Talking funneling out of one and putting in other, not just a state thing
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06-29-2016, 02:09 PM
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ELI5 please? Gas prices are probably going to go up 23-cents, but that's okay because we're not as bad as NY? ...More or less?
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Good. He microwaved my phone 6 years ago, i hope his intake erupts.
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06-29-2016, 03:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 97camaro
Sure it might be something they do, but there are a million other things to do before cleaning the back of a sign.
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Unless it was profane or gang related
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So much stupid, so little time.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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06-29-2016, 05:13 PM
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Didn't it get shot down?
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06-29-2016, 06:52 PM
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It passed in state assembly.
Doesn't look good in state senate though.
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06-29-2016, 10:03 PM
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We drive less and in cars that are more fuel efficent. Gas is still cheaper than it has been in over a decade. Oh yeah, and if the law passes and goes to the Gov for the final approval, sales tax goes from 7 to 6% in 2018 but let's focus on the .23 increase on gas for our ****** roads.
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06-29-2016, 11:30 PM
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I obviously don't want to pay more for gas, but 23 cents more puts the average price in central Jersey around 2.15 per gallon for regular, which isn't bad... I'm OK with this as long as the price stay where they are and the money is actually used to repair/expand our roadways.
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06-30-2016, 08:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
We drive less and in cars that are more fuel efficent. Gas is still cheaper than it has been in over a decade. Oh yeah, and if the law passes and goes to the Gov for the final approval, sales tax goes from 7 to 6% in 2018 but let's focus on the .23 increase on gas for our ****** roads.
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Raising the tax now and promising a sales tax cut later is pointless. There will still be a net increase in tax no matter what, you're an idiot if you think they're gonna save YOU money. The cut is to justify and make you feel good. Also, I wouldn't put it past the state to most likely pull some BS in 2018 as to why they can't reduce sales tax citing bad roads or jobs. New Jersey has some of the highest taxes and yet our roads suck, you really think this new bill will change anything? They have had plenty of time to prove otherwise. Sure gas is cheap today, but every other tax has been steadily increasing. (Furthermore, gas prices are where they are due to larger economics at play ie mid east trying to sink US oil boom, not your local representative)
This gas tax is completely unnecessary. Period. There is plenty of state and federal money to fix our infrastructure; however, it gets wasted, squandered whatever on inefficient and frivolous administration and overpriced, behind schedule contractors. I work in the industry and with the NJDOT everday (plus other infrastructure agencies) and would make you sick to your stomach if you knew a fraction of what goes on in Trenton and beyond. There is zero accountability and that's the problem. /rant
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06-30-2016, 09:24 AM
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06-30-2016, 11:24 AM
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"The average NJ Family will save $450 with the 1% sales tax decrease in the Gas Tax Bill" -Chris Christie 2016
What a f*king piece of ****. We don't get the sales tax cut right away either! .5% in 2017 then another .5% in 2018! I blame prevailing wages for the hole that the TTF dug itself into. Christie is now on my **** list.
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06-30-2016, 11:46 AM
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