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06-07-2009, 12:36 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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Need a Clutch
Well my car has hit 70,000 miles and it looks like i need a clutch. I was thinking a spec stage 2? I'm trying to spend the least amount of money for a decent product ya know? Any ideas?
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94 Camaro Z28-CAI with bellow, LCAS, 3.73 gears, A4, 275/40/zr17-silver Zr1's, Magnaflow Stainless steel exhaust. For Sale-This Spring Best 1/4 Time-13.5-Sold
CURRENT RIDE- 99 Z28 with Ground Effects Slp intake Exhaust and Short Throw shifter- best 1/4 -13.34@105.6 New mods yet to be tested->Pacestter long tubes--->Tune by TTP= 349 RWHP 362 Ftlbs
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06-07-2009, 12:50 PM
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11 second club / Moderator
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Are you needing a clutch because its at 70,000 miles, or is it slipping?
Check with one of the sponsors. I hate spec, and will never use a clutch from them again.
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06-07-2009, 12:50 PM
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your gonna find a lot of people that say spec is great, and a lot of people that HATE them.
i HATED mine
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06-07-2009, 02:22 PM
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11 Second Club / I <3 LT1s
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If your going with a spec, go with a spec 3+. I suggest taking a look at a Monster Stage 3 clutch.
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06-07-2009, 04:35 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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My buddy has a 2+ in his 98 ta with a 224 cam and ported heads. He loves the clutch.
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06-07-2009, 05:11 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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i heard its bad to have a clutch that can hold too more power then you make and the stage 2 is good for like 500hp
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93 Civic HB 1.5L-70hp :-p-Sold
94 Camaro Z28-CAI with bellow, LCAS, 3.73 gears, A4, 275/40/zr17-silver Zr1's, Magnaflow Stainless steel exhaust. For Sale-This Spring Best 1/4 Time-13.5-Sold
CURRENT RIDE- 99 Z28 with Ground Effects Slp intake Exhaust and Short Throw shifter- best 1/4 -13.34@105.6 New mods yet to be tested->Pacestter long tubes--->Tune by TTP= 349 RWHP 362 Ftlbs
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06-07-2009, 06:37 PM
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Co-Founder / Site Admin
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Talk to Josh over at JS Performance. He can get a clutch custom made for your application.
- Justin
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06-07-2009, 07:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
Talk to Josh over at JS Performance. He can get a clutch custom made for your application.
- Justin
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Why would he need a custom clutch for his application when he wants to spend as little as possible? FWIW, if you want to spend as little as possible get a spec 1 or 2, if your clutch see's a lot of abuse and you feel like spending extra cash go with a monster or textralia.
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Last edited by 01blackz28; 06-07-2009 at 07:38 PM.
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06-07-2009, 09:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 01blackz28
Why would he need a custom clutch for his application when he wants to spend as little as possible? FWIW, if you want to spend as little as possible get a spec 1 or 2, if your clutch see's a lot of abuse and you feel like spending extra cash go with a monster or textralia.
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Thanks, I appreciate your endorsement of my product.. Besides what you think our clutches are actually very competitively priced. When we build a "custom" unit you are paying for what you need and only what you need. Not cool paint, BS warranties, or a flywheel and alignment tool so that it can be called a "kit".
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06-07-2009, 09:24 PM
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11 Second Club / I <3 LT1s
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JSPERFORMANCE
Thanks, I appreciate your endorsement of my product.. Besides what you think our clutches are actually very competitively priced. When we build a "custom" unit you are paying for what you need and only what you need. Not cool paint, BS warranties, or a flywheel and alignment tool so that it can be called a "kit".
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but appearance sells products
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00 SS A4- LQ9/LS3/Stalled/3.42s 1.48/11.10/121 mph<-6spd swap in progress.
13 Silverado Z71- Sold 11/16
99 Z28 M6- -H/C/9in - sold 1/13
99 Silverado Z71- The DD - Sold 7/13
03 CBR 600RR - Sold 8/13
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06-07-2009, 09:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJNETSFAN
but appearance sells products
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As I stated before, my product is not for everybody. If you want a clutch that looks nice then by all means go for it. If you want something that is quality and works then I can help.
Isn't the clutch inside the bellhousing? Isn't the only time you will see it is when you are installing it and when you are pulling it back out? I guess its a good thing that the other guys spend so much time and money making their stuff pretty, this way you will have something nice to look at when you are pulling it back apart so much..
I am not about quantity, I am about quality. Our product is a bit more time consuming since everything is set up by the hand of an experienced craftsman. Not somone getting his $7.75/hour and watching the clock.
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06-07-2009, 09:41 PM
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11 Second Club / I <3 LT1s
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JSPERFORMANCE
As I stated before, my product is not for everybody. If you want a clutch that looks nice then by all means go for it. If you want something that is quality and works then I can help.
Isn't the clutch inside the bellhousing? Isn't the only time you will see it is when you are installing it and when you are pulling it back out? I guess its a good thing that the other guys spend so much time and money making their stuff pretty, this way you will have something nice to look at when you are pulling it back apart so much..
I am not about quantity, I am about quality. Our product is a bit more time consuming since everything is set up by the hand of an experienced craftsman. Not somone getting his $7.75/hour and watching the clock.
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lol I was just being sarcastic...I guess you didn't get that by the smiley. I'm sure your clutches work great, just wasn't for me.
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00 SS A4- LQ9/LS3/Stalled/3.42s 1.48/11.10/121 mph<-6spd swap in progress.
13 Silverado Z71- Sold 11/16
99 Z28 M6- -H/C/9in - sold 1/13
99 Silverado Z71- The DD - Sold 7/13
03 CBR 600RR - Sold 8/13
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06-07-2009, 09:59 PM
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I have a JS performance clutch. if you have any questions, you can ask me. I don't race often (since 2006 i think) and don't drive hard or have a tremendous amount of horsepower (~400whp). I love my clutch, I came from a Spec 3i. I had to go with something that I knew people had first hand experience with.
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06-07-2009, 10:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJNETSFAN
lol I was just being sarcastic...I guess you didn't get that by the smiley. I'm sure your clutches work great, just wasn't for me.
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Yeah, a clutch that works right isn't for everybody!
Camvill, give a sponsor a call to see what a custom setup has to offer and check out the cost. Don't fall for the warranty bs that the other salespeople want to give you either, if you install the clutch yourself the warranty is usually thrown out.
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06-07-2009, 10:14 PM
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11 Second Club / I <3 LT1s
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JL8Jeff
Yeah, a clutch that works right isn't for everybody! .
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As stated in my thread that got deleted...there are 3 or 4 manufacturers that make all clutches on the market. So, most likely, any clutch camvill picks will work fine.
Btw, Js told me not to go with his clutch, so I went and ordered the other clutch I was looking at the next day. It's now in the car, grabs like no tomorrow, and I'm happy with my choice.
Camvill- If you want a sponsor to do it, go with JS, but if your looking to get it done the cheapest and do the install yourself(it's not hard at all), then JS is not for you since they only install their clutches.
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Vinnie -
00 SS A4- LQ9/LS3/Stalled/3.42s 1.48/11.10/121 mph<-6spd swap in progress.
13 Silverado Z71- Sold 11/16
99 Z28 M6- -H/C/9in - sold 1/13
99 Silverado Z71- The DD - Sold 7/13
03 CBR 600RR - Sold 8/13
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06-08-2009, 01:19 AM
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i actually like the fact that you can talk to josh and custom taylor a clutch to meet your needs. as someone that has bad knee problems buying a clutch blind can put you at a loss of cash really quick if you get a clutch thats too heavy for your liking. if i needed a clutch i would be talking with him about one...too bad i have a brand new one
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06-08-2009, 12:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JSPERFORMANCE
Thanks, I appreciate your endorsement of my product..
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..I think when people hear custom that usually means expensive.
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06-08-2009, 04:43 PM
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If you get a clutch that's rated for much higher up I believe it'll just be really grabby. For example, I told josh I want my clutch built to hold nitrous ( it's a track car) and was told that off of spray it'll be a little touchy
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06-08-2009, 05:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JSPERFORMANCE
Thanks, I appreciate your endorsement of my product.. Besides what you think our clutches are actually very competitively priced. When we build a "custom" unit you are paying for what you need and only what you need. Not cool paint, BS warranties, or a flywheel and alignment tool so that it can be called a "kit".
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I'm pretty sure 95% of fbodys out there have an "off of the shelf clutch" in them. 'm not knocking your product at all. I never said a spec clutch was my choice becuase it was painted blue did I?The guy wants something a decent clutch for as little as he can spend. A spec stage 1 clutch is $294 from thunder racing. That is rated well above stock hp levels. If you can build me a custom clutch for 294$ please pm so I can get further details. As far as bs warranties go I bought a used textralia clutch and was said to only have 1400miles on it and THEY STILL RESURFACED IT FOR ME !!! All I did was pay shipping.
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06-08-2009, 08:15 PM
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Thats great that you had a good experience with Textrailia. I am glad you are happy with it and them.
I have done clutches as affordably priced as $150 for a standard style 10.5" unit. Some styles are more expensive to do (such as LT1 pull clutches) but it usually turns out that when given the option most people don't mind paying a little more for a better part that is better suited to his or her needs.
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06-08-2009, 09:18 PM
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i know when im getting my new clutch put in im not even going to bother dealing with looking for "the right clutch" im just going to have josh put one of his in my car.
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06-08-2009, 10:30 PM
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thanks for the input guys is there any sites that explain how to do it step by step
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93 Civic HB 1.5L-70hp :-p-Sold
94 Camaro Z28-CAI with bellow, LCAS, 3.73 gears, A4, 275/40/zr17-silver Zr1's, Magnaflow Stainless steel exhaust. For Sale-This Spring Best 1/4 Time-13.5-Sold
CURRENT RIDE- 99 Z28 with Ground Effects Slp intake Exhaust and Short Throw shifter- best 1/4 -13.34@105.6 New mods yet to be tested->Pacestter long tubes--->Tune by TTP= 349 RWHP 362 Ftlbs
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06-09-2009, 05:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Camvill
thanks for the input guys is there any sites that explain how to do it step by step
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this is the guide I used: http://www.installuniversity.com/ins...ch_install.htm
You don't even need it. I just used it for bolt sizes that way I didn't have to keep going under the car and guessing. Took me 10 hrs the first time taking my time.
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13 Silverado Z71- Sold 11/16
99 Z28 M6- -H/C/9in - sold 1/13
99 Silverado Z71- The DD - Sold 7/13
03 CBR 600RR - Sold 8/13
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06-09-2009, 08:34 AM
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That guide makes no mention of resurfacing the flywheel. Don't forget that step.
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06-09-2009, 09:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
That guide makes no mention of resurfacing the flywheel. Don't forget that step.
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It doesn't because they are replacing the clutch and flywheel at the same time. But you are absolutely correct in situations where you aren't replacing the flywheel.
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