5 point harnesses on the street

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

yes, mounting matters a bunch. which is why every ricer moron with harnesses bolted to the floor are all going to compress their spines. seat style matters too. check that schroth document.


edit1: now that I think of it a car seat is a great example. look at the instructions. where the shoulder belts go through the seat must be above the child's shoulders.

Right, but bringing it full circle, that seems (to me) like the illegality of it is because they are non-factory and non-DOT approved restraints so you may not technically be wearing a (legally defined) seat belt in the eyes of a police officer. Not because a 5 pt harness system is less safe than a basic 3 point. The danger comes in improper mounting and placement.

[LTb1ow]

Originally Posted by WildBillyT

Right, but bringing it full circle, that seems (to me) like the illegality of it is because they are non-factory and non-DOT approved restraints so you may not technically be wearing a (legally defined) seat belt in the eyes of a police officer. Not because a 5 pt harness system is less safe than a basic 3 point. The danger comes in improper mounting and placement.

And right back round teh circle, old cars came "safe" from factory without belts, so you adding belts is illegal and unsafe in the same way a 5 pt is on a newer car.

[sweetbmxrider]

Good point on the child seat.

[Featherburner]

Originally Posted by LTb1ow

And right back round teh circle, old cars came "safe" from factory without belts, so you adding belts is illegal and unsafe in the same way a 5 pt is on a newer car.

Who said they came "safe" from the factory without belts? Back then the factory said we will make your car safe for more money. Seatbelts were an option!

[Blacdout96]

Didn't the early Vipers ( I believe the GTS) come with 4 point harnesses from the factory?