Have you aware

[sweetbmxrider]

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Inspections/inspection.htm

Under the new program, if your passenger vehicle is 1995 or older, you will no longer be required to have an inspection. However, inspections of this type of vehicle will continue until a new program is in place.

[Blackbirdws6]

Time to buy some roadkill!

[LTb1ow]

Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[BonzoHansen]

Sweet!

[NJSPEEDER]

This will be interesting. For people like us, enthusiasts, that tend to keep up with maintenance and take care of our own cars its gonna be a nice money and time saver not having to deal with the DMV BS.

On the other hand, when NJ dropped safety inspections the number of maintenance related car accidents more than doubled in two years. You see it every time you drive down the highway and see those epic crap cans with obviously dead shocks, bald tires, and everything else wearing a brand new inspection sticker. How many people are going to find out about this and gravitate towards, or keep unmaintained older cars for even longer beyond their useful life?

[NJSPEEDER]

Also not a fan of the obvious migration towards private facilities. I know government doesn't do anything efficiently, but the number of horror stories I hear annually of private inspections in other states creating completely insane, obvious rip off, repair bills isn't any more appealing.

[ar0ck]

Perfect timing!

[BonzoHansen]

Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER

On the other hand, when NJ dropped safety inspections the number of maintenance related car accidents more than doubled in two years.

Where did you read that? I know when they changed the rule they cited statistics in other states that drop safety who saw no incremental growth. But I never saw any follow up after the change.

I actually thought we would see insurance companies requiring some kind of mechanical inspection for discounts or such

[NJSPEEDER]

It was actually the insurance companies that came out with a big report about it and petitioned the state to put safety inspection back. It was in the papers a few years ago. The state passed it off by saying that federal highway dollars are assigned because of emissions so they kept that instead of having safety only as they originally planned.

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I like this new thinking, everything I own, minus the Hyundai, is pre 95.

[ThoR294]

Aw. That was the whole reason I bought a 98 Subaru.... So I didn't need a sniffer

[sweetbmxrider]

Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER

Also not a fan of the obvious migration towards private facilities. I know government doesn't do anything efficiently, but the number of horror stories I hear annually of private inspections in other states creating completely insane, obvious rip off, repair bills isn't any more appealing.

What? You can only go to an emission repair facility for emission repairs or the owner can perform them. That has always been the case. The state controls the rates that can be charged for the inspection program to a degree and obviously shops can charge their labor rates and part mark up. You also realize that the state did away with safety inspections due to abuse of re-inspections at the state lanes. See: Failing for oil change stickers due to visual impairment.

[NJSPEEDER]

ALL RE-INSPECTIONS will be conducted by the Private Inspection Facilities.

So, if a car fails inspection the owner gets to go pay for a sticker. I don't trust people enough to believe that in all good and glorious faith before God they won't take complete advantage of the uninformed to up sell repairs and services that are completely unnecessary.

[sweetbmxrider]

Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER

So, if a car fails inspection the owner gets to go pay for a sticker. I don't trust people enough to believe that in all good and glorious faith before God they won't take complete advantage of the uninformed to up sell repairs and services that are completely unnecessary.

The owner must repair the vehicle before presenting it for re-inspection. Only emission repair facilities can perform emission repairs related to the failed inspection, not any old shady shop. This still has not changed since this inspection program was introduced. You fail, you or an erf repair, you reinsp.

edit: The only change here is the state run facilities are no longer re-inspecting your car. They never did repair work and never will. They did unnecessarily fail vehicles during the days of safety inspection costing the state an absurd amount of money, but the uninformed don't know and don't care.

Your blanket statement can be related to all walks of life, be it a doctor, lawyer, dentist, salesman, waiter, etc etc etc. What is it that you do for a living that we must blindly trust you to not take advantage of the uninformed?

[NJSPEEDER]

I don't deal with the public, I don't sell anything, and I don't touch anyone's bills or money. So whether or not the general public trusts my work doesn't apply.

If you have trustworthy local shops thats good. The average consumer wouldn't know the difference. Just saying that something will be fixed before reinspection doesn't make a difference since most people don't work on their own car. So where do you think they are going to go to make sure their car gets through inspection? Oh yeah, the shop that they have to buy the sticker from.

[sweetbmxrider]

If an erf does the repair work, the charge for re-inspection is only $2.50 for the pass sticker if it does pass. I think you need to take your tin foil hat off and actually understand how the program works. Actually, continue yelling at the tv. I need some entertain.

[NJSPEEDER]

I know the sticker price and I know how the program is intended to work. What I am talking about are all the shops around that have been caught ripping people off yet are still allowed to inspect.

[ThoR294]

So as soon as this date hits (or when they announce it), I can Peel the sticker off of my Dakota? (1992)

[BonzoHansen]

Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER

I know the sticker price and I know how the program is intended to work. What I am talking about are all the shops around that have been caught ripping people off yet are still allowed to inspect.

Then the state is screwing up or these supposed ripoffs are not being reported. They used to follow up on us all the time. They had setup cars they used to catch shops. They also came in and checked all our paperwork for all inspections. They harassed us because they saw new tires on a bill with an inspection and no failure. The fact the customer asked for new tires was irrelevant, we were accused of ripping people off. So we had to start artificially failing cars or just billing the inspection on a seperate invoice.

And in the auto service business most 'ripoffs' are accusations based on what their neighbor who was 'good with cars' told them, or now what some dumbass on the interweb said, since only experts post on the web

[NJSPEEDER]

There was a shop in Ewing, that I know the former owner and several former employees, that was busted by the state and successfully sued by customers. Owner jsut paid some fines and carried on business as usual. Thankfully other circumstances caused him to sell the business or he would probably still be at it today.

[Blackbirdws6]

So the poor actions of some shops places blame on the whole process. Got it.

[sweetbmxrider]

Tim, you sound like a jack ass here

[BonzoHansen]

If the owner can weather five digit fines and 90, 180 or more days license suspensions then he has a lot of business.

[sweetbmxrider]

Nothing has changed to how erf's are the only businesses that can legally repair emissions related issues that failed during a state inspection. The only change is that state lanes will no longer reinspect thus no longer costing the state stupid money. I guess it doesn't matter when you don't know you are being robbed?

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider

Nothing has changed to how erf's are the only businesses that can legally repair emissions related issues that failed during a state inspection. The only change is that state lanes will no longer reinspect thus no longer costing the state stupid money. I guess it doesn't matter when you don't know you are being robbed?

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