Spec Clutch question - NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds

deadtrend1 · 03-14-2006, 08:44 PM

Ordered my spec stage 2 through tunder racing yesterday, should be here friday. I am going to get my flywheel cut before the end of the week at a local machine shop sonewhere around here.

Question I have is ... what all is included with the clutch. Are the pilot and throwout bearings included? If not, I just checked summit and couldn't find any there.

Anything else I will be needing parts wise?

Thanks,
~Tim

V · 03-14-2006, 09:16 PM

with my spec stage 3,(LS1), it came with a flywheel, clutch disc, pressure plate and throwout bearing. i dont think it came with a pilot bearing. at the time it didnt matter for me since there was only 10k miles on the car(stock clutch disc failed). A lot of people complain abotu SPEC, but i had mine from 10k miles to now... with no real issues and i drove my car hard.

deadtrend1 · 03-15-2006, 02:45 PM

yea, people say some things about spec, but they also say things about mcleod, ram, and centerforce. See how this one works out, everyone has their own preferences

qwikz28 · 03-15-2006, 03:40 PM

i love my spec 3... but for some reason mine didnt come with a pilot bearing. ( install by 1984camaroz28 )

1984camaroz28 · 03-15-2006, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by qwikz28

i love my spec 3... but for some reason mine didnt come with a pilot bearing. ( install by 1984camaroz28 )

yea i found that odd it dident come with a pilot bearing or a throout bearing....thats the first kit i ever saw with out them just was a pain find them from another store.... Geting use to the new clutch yet?

qwikz28 · 03-15-2006, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 1984camaroz28

yea i found that odd it dident come with a pilot bearing or a throout bearing....thats the first kit i ever saw with out them just was a pain find them from another store.... Geting use to the new clutch yet?

kinda... its real different from stock but its still a ****load of fun though. probably gonna do a trans mount this weekend to really get this car shiftin good.

01ws6TA · 03-16-2006, 06:59 AM

Good idea about the tranny mount i replacecd mine with a stocker 2 weeks before i got my new clutch put in first time on the track there goes my brand new 80$ tranny mount lol couldnt find a poly mount at the time and it was so bad that i couldnt shift above 3 grand now im in the same boat again well after i get the dahm car out of the bodyshop.

I like spec clutches, only reason why i didnt get a spec 3 is because of all the threads of them blowing up on ls1tech, id be one of the unlucky ppl that had that happen and lose my feet.

So i bought a centerforce dual friction havent had any problems with it thus far except trying to keep my rear in one piece lol

qwikz28 · 03-16-2006, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 01ws6TA

Good idea about the tranny mount i replacecd mine with a stocker 2 weeks before i got my new clutch put in first time on the track there goes my brand new 80$ tranny mount lol couldnt find a poly mount at the time and it was so bad that i couldnt shift above 3 grand now im in the same boat again well after i get the dahm car out of the bodyshop.

I like spec clutches, only reason why i didnt get a spec 3 is because of all the threads of them blowing up on ls1tech, id be one of the unlucky ppl that had that happen and lose my feet.

So i bought a centerforce dual friction havent had any problems with it thus far except trying to keep my rear in one piece lol

the reason you see so many of those threads is cause so many people use those clutches. i had a buddy of mine blow his up after 8k but he abused the crap out of it and even blew his tranny before the spec went out. i got a slammin deal on this spec and i was planning on going forced induction so i thought i would need a strong clutch. i am trying to break in the clutch nicely right now and i guess we'll see how it goes from here. if i didnt get the spec i probably would have gotten the centerforce though

deadtrend1 · 03-17-2006, 03:22 PM

it came yesterday. Has the throwout bearing, roller pilot bearing, pressure plate, disc, and alignment tool.

I bought a pilot bearing puller and i had the flywheel resurfaced. So i should be good to go.

Fastbird · 03-22-2006, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by deadtrend1

it came yesterday. Has the throwout bearing, roller pilot bearing, pressure plate, disc, and alignment tool.

I bought a pilot bearing puller and i had the flywheel resurfaced. So i should be good to go.

Did you put this in yet??? How does it feel???

I'm taking our purple car to base on Saturday to put the our new Spec II in. I think we ordered our clutches on the same day from thunder actually (tuesday last week?).

98tadriver · 03-22-2006, 12:10 PM

bought a spec stage 3 in october, also bought a billet flywheel with it. Clutch kit included Clutch plate, pressure plate, throwout/release bearing, pilot bearing, installation tool. definately buy a new tranny mount too, i broke my stock one after the break in period, lol. the mount i bought it from thunderracing 24.00 or something

Tru2Chevy · 03-22-2006, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fastbird

Did you put this in yet??? How does it feel???

I'm taking our purple car to base on Saturday to put the our new Spec II in. I think we ordered our clutches on the same day from thunder actually (tuesday last week?).

Yea, he did: http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=16393

- Justin

Fastbird · 03-22-2006, 01:49 PM

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Yea, he did: http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=16393

- Justin

Oh THAT'S just freakin' GREAT!

Tru2Chevy · 03-22-2006, 01:53 PM

By the looks of it the problem was in the pressure plate, not the clutch itself. Hopefully you won't have any issues with yours!

- Justin

02SOMWS6 · 03-22-2006, 06:37 PM

You should have ordered a stage 3 or 4. A lot of people make install errors then blam it on the clutch. If you do a search on LS1 tech you will see that every clutch out there sucks.

Fastbird · 03-22-2006, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 02SOMWS6

You should have ordered a stage 3 or 4.

Actually, no I shouldn't have. The car only makes about 350 to the wheels, and won't be seeing slicks at the track with exception to once or twice. Mainly, it's because my wife is the main driver of this car in question, and I KNOW she won't like the harsh and quick engagement of the three, and a four would be complete overkill.

I chose the Stage II because it's the next step up from a McLeod Single Disk, which was my initial choice.

deadtrend1 · 03-23-2006, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 02SOMWS6

You should have ordered a stage 3 or 4. A lot of people make install errors then blam it on the clutch. If you do a search on LS1 tech you will see that every clutch out there sucks.

I can garuntee that my problem was not a install error. It was a defect in te machining of the pressure plate.

Fastbird · 03-25-2006, 05:14 PM

Well, just got home from installing the Spec 2 into our purple car (gotta love having a lift on base and a connection to let you in early so you KNOW you'll get the lift). I'm simply amazed. This thing engages so smoothly but with a sharpness that says "Hey, I'm definitely not stock." No chatter, no nothing. I can't wait to break it (and the 4.10's that went in on Friday) in and get to the track.

qwikz28 · 03-25-2006, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fastbird

Well, just got home from installing the Spec 2 into our purple car (gotta love having a lift on base and a connection to let you in early so you KNOW you'll get the lift). I'm simply amazed. This thing engages so smoothly but with a sharpness that says "Hey, I'm definitely not stock." No chatter, no nothing. I can't wait to break it (and the 4.10's that went in on Friday) in and get to the track.

no chatter? damn congrads. mine chatters like all hell

Fastbird · 03-25-2006, 09:40 PM

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no chatter? damn congrads. mine chatters like all hell

Yeah, probably the smoothest clutch short of my Street Twin in my other car that I've ever driven. Granted, I've only put about 60 miles on it so far, but it's freaking nice.

It'll probably come apart first time at the track though.

Fastbird · 03-28-2006, 08:30 AM

Well, I've got close to a couple hundred miles on it and this thing is amazingly smooth. I'm on pins and needles as to whether or not it's going to hold up, but so far it's been a dream to drive.

IcemanSS · 03-28-2006, 08:49 AM

See the guys down here Like to run Ram clutchs. One of or guys used to have a Z that would low 11's, and he could pull 6500 launch with no slip.

deadtrend1 · 03-31-2006, 07:37 PM

well, i got the new stage 2 back from spec. Contemplating sending it back to thunder for a ram or keeping it. ugg, decisions....

qwikz28 · 04-02-2006, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by deadtrend1

well, i got teh new stage 2 back from spec. Contemplating sending it back to thunder for a ram or keeping it. ugg, decisions....

keep the spec... it will be great unless its installed incorrectly... what are the chances of getting two duds in a row?

Ian · 04-02-2006, 04:44 PM

I say keep it. minimize your down time.