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Old 11-21-2023, 07:45 AM   #1
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No more gas cars in NJ in 2035

The green knuckleheads are at it again. They better build a solar/wind generating station first before doing anything like this.

https://nj1015.com/nj-will-ban-all-g...es%20by%202035.
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Old 11-21-2023, 02:12 PM   #2
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Old 11-22-2023, 12:27 AM   #3
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So.... Just buy out of state gas cars?
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Old 11-23-2023, 09:35 AM   #4
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These people are out of their minds. I sure hope they plan on building some new nuclear power plants to produce this electricity, there's no way solar and wind will provide it. And our grid can't handle much more especially if every house upped their service to charge electric cars/trucks.
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Old 11-23-2023, 04:48 PM   #5
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Considering that auto manufacturers have scaled back production on EVs because nobody's buying (Especially when they cost an arm and a leg!) this seems to be one of those feel-good legislation things that will keep getting rolled back because it's not feasible.

-The infrastructure isn't there to support it.
-The charging stations seem to be out of service more than 50% of the time.
-The cost of the vehicles is too damn high.
-Power grid will go up in flames before it will provide the juice needed for this sort of stuff.
-The range of EVs is an issue, as is charging rates.
-EV insurance is sky high.
-EV battery fires are no joke and there's no good way to put them out as of now.
-Still not convinced that EV's don't have a bigger impact per vehicle than traditional IC vehicles do as far as the environment goes; those rare earths and lithium don't come out of the ground on their own.
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Old 11-24-2023, 06:54 AM   #6
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Considering that auto manufacturers have scaled back production on EVs because nobody's buying (Especially when they cost an arm and a leg!) this seems to be one of those feel-good legislation things that will keep getting rolled back because it's not feasible.

-The infrastructure isn't there to support it.
-The charging stations seem to be out of service more than 50% of the time.
-The cost of the vehicles is too damn high.
-Power grid will go up in flames before it will provide the juice needed for this sort of stuff.
-The range of EVs is an issue, as is charging rates.
-EV insurance is sky high.
-EV battery fires are no joke and there's no good way to put them out as of now.
-Still not convinced that EV's don't have a bigger impact per vehicle than traditional IC vehicles do as far as the environment goes; those rare earths and lithium don't come out of the ground on their own.
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Old 11-29-2023, 07:32 AM   #7
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Considering that auto manufacturers have scaled back production on EVs because nobody's buying (Especially when they cost an arm and a leg!) this seems to be one of those feel-good legislation things that will keep getting rolled back because it's not feasible.
This.

We(Audi) were supposed to be all EV by 2030 originally. That just straight up isn't happening anymore bc its not possible. PHEV will be pushed hard, as it should, and that will be the future of the industry until hydrogen is actually doable on a large scale.

EV wave is coming to an end, all headlines about gas car bans are nothing more than a views grab at this point.
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Old 12-01-2023, 03:56 PM   #8
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didnt sweden or one of those northern european countrys just go back and publicly say ev's are not the future, we are dropping all mandates?
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Old 12-01-2023, 04:40 PM   #9
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Infrastructure isn't there to support all this EV stuff and building that in needs to come from somewhere. Heading into an election, no one is going to want to raise taxes to fund these efforts. Political policy, local or national, will always strive for something mostly unobtainable and usually outside of the career of policy makers.
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Old 12-02-2023, 08:58 PM   #10
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That works until you run out of water, and will be all sorts of fun as an in-attached-garage fire.

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Infrastructure isn't there to support all this EV stuff and building that in needs to come from somewhere. Heading into an election, no one is going to want to raise taxes to fund these efforts. Political policy, local or national, will always strive for something mostly unobtainable and usually outside of the career of policy makers.
I think if the pols tried to raise taxes now when it's hard enough putting food on the table and keeping the lights on for a lot of folks, they'd find themselves on the wrong end of a noose figuratively and possibly literally if things keep getting more expensive.
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Old 12-03-2023, 11:03 AM   #11
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